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		<title>By: jr aserios</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 01:29:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: iNotebook.mobi &#187; Rojo: Web2 War Chest; iPhone Unlocks; General Betrayus</title>
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		<dc:creator>iNotebook.mobi &#187; Rojo: Web2 War Chest; iPhone Unlocks; General Betrayus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 11:46:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Things Digital started the latest rumor cycle about potential new Facebook financing, blogging that the social-networking site may seek billions to support expansion. Early investor [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Rojo: Web2 War Chest; iPhone Unlocks; General Betrayus at Food Safety Trends</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rojo: Web2 War Chest; iPhone Unlocks; General Betrayus at Food Safety Trends</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 15:08:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Things Digital started the latest rumor cycle about potential new Facebook financing, blogging that the social-networking site may seek billions to support expansion. Early investor [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Adonomics Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Kara Swisher is no longer in a relationship with Mark Zuckerberg &#8212; It&#8217;s complicated</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adonomics Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Kara Swisher is no longer in a relationship with Mark Zuckerberg &#8212; It&#8217;s complicated</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 02:26:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] On Sept. 11, 2007 Kara Swisher wrote a good speculative piece about the potential that &#8220;perhaps Microsoft or some other moneybag suitors&#8221; might be interested in taking a stake in Facebook at a valuation with &#8220;several B&#8217;s in it&#8221; (see http://kara.allthingsd.com/20070911/how-high-can-you-count-new-facebook-fundraising/).&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] On Sept. 11, 2007 Kara Swisher wrote a good speculative piece about the potential that &#8220;perhaps Microsoft or some other moneybag suitors&#8221; might be interested in taking a stake in Facebook at a valuation with &#8220;several B&#8217;s in it&#8221; (see <a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/20070911/how-high-can-you-count-new-facebook-fundraising/).&#8221" rel="nofollow">http://kara.allthingsd.com/200.....g/).&#8221</a>; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Megalomaniabook &#124; Digital Daily &#124; John Paczkowski &#124; AllThingsD</title>
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		<dc:creator>Megalomaniabook &#124; Digital Daily &#124; John Paczkowski &#124; AllThingsD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2007 13:14:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Zuckerberg is not sleeping quite as late as he once did. The Wall Street Journal, following up on Kara&#8217;s story of a few weeks ago, reports that Microsoft is in talks to take a 5% stake in the social-networking phenom for $300 [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Zuckerberg is not sleeping quite as late as he once did. The Wall Street Journal, following up on Kara&#8217;s story of a few weeks ago, reports that Microsoft is in talks to take a 5% stake in the social-networking phenom for $300 [...]</p>
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		<title>By: 15 Billion More Reasons to Worry About Facebook &#124; BoomTown &#124; Kara Swisher &#124; AllThingsD</title>
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		<dc:creator>15 Billion More Reasons to Worry About Facebook &#124; BoomTown &#124; Kara Swisher &#124; AllThingsD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2007 11:10:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I reported in this column two weeks ago that Facebook was looking to raise a new round of funding and that software giant Microsoft was a prime c..., I suggested a big number was being bandied about to create a giant war chest for the trendy social [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I reported in this column two weeks ago that Facebook was looking to raise a new round of funding and that software giant Microsoft was a prime c&#8230;, I suggested a big number was being bandied about to create a giant war chest for the trendy social [...]</p>
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		<title>By: gadget life blog » A new Facebook venture round?</title>
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		<dc:creator>gadget life blog » A new Facebook venture round?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 20:30:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The latest rumour bouncing around Silicon Valley is that Facebook may be looking to raise another round of venture capital. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Dave Liu dot com / musings from the edge &#187; Articles of the Day</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 18:36:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] How High Can You Count: New Facebook Fundraising? - Here’s an interesting idea if you don’t want to get bought and you can’t quite IPO yet and you need to have a tidy war chest for expansion or perhaps a choice acquisition or two: Bring in more investors and raise more money at a huge valuation. That’s a concept that the top dogs at Facebook are seriously mulling over now, according to sources, after getting so many inquiries from investment funds and several bigger companies–such as its ad-serving partner, Microsoft–about grabbing a stake in the fast-growing social-networking Web site.                         [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] How High Can You Count: New Facebook Fundraising? &#8211; Here’s an interesting idea if you don’t want to get bought and you can’t quite IPO yet and you need to have a tidy war chest for expansion or perhaps a choice acquisition or two: Bring in more investors and raise more money at a huge valuation. That’s a concept that the top dogs at Facebook are seriously mulling over now, according to sources, after getting so many inquiries from investment funds and several bigger companies–such as its ad-serving partner, Microsoft–about grabbing a stake in the fast-growing social-networking Web site.                         [...]</p>
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		<title>By: TechCrunch&#8217;s Michael Arrington Chats With Facebook&#8217;s Mark Zuckerberg &#124; Digital Daily &#124; John Paczkowski &#124; AllThingsD</title>
		<link>http://kara.allthingsd.com/20070911/how-high-can-you-count-new-facebook-fundraising/#comment-879</link>
		<dc:creator>TechCrunch&#8217;s Michael Arrington Chats With Facebook&#8217;s Mark Zuckerberg &#124; Digital Daily &#124; John Paczkowski &#124; AllThingsD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2007 01:58:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to funding. Arrington mentions the report by BoomTown&#8217;s Kara Swisher about Facebook looking for funding. Zuckerberg repeats the standard party line: We&#8217;re not looking to be acquired, we&#8217;re not [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to funding. Arrington mentions the report by BoomTown&#8217;s Kara Swisher about Facebook looking for funding. Zuckerberg repeats the standard party line: We&#8217;re not looking to be acquired, we&#8217;re not [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Monday Morning Quarterback: The BoomTown Navel-Gazing Edition &#124; BoomTown &#124; Kara Swisher &#124; AllThingsD</title>
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		<dc:creator>Monday Morning Quarterback: The BoomTown Navel-Gazing Edition &#124; BoomTown &#124; Kara Swisher &#124; AllThingsD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 10:13:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] That included our exclusive report that Facebook was raising a massive round of funding at an even more massive valuat.... [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Lee Lorenzen</title>
		<link>http://kara.allthingsd.com/20070911/how-high-can-you-count-new-facebook-fundraising/#comment-814</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee Lorenzen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2007 17:06:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kara,

First of all, IMHO Facebook will be worth $100 billion by Dec. 2008 when they have 200+ million users and they will be valued by the public market at $500 per user based on their multiple sources of revenue.  You can read my &quot;Triumph of the Nerds -- Part Deux&quot; post at http://blog.adonomics.com for the detailed discussion as to why.

However, I do believe it would make sense for Facebook to salt away $500 million or so worth of a war chest at a valuation of around $10 billion.  Microsoft would be the logical investor and should ask for the following key deal points:

1. An agreement that Facebook not to sell to Google or allow Google to invest.

2. An agreement that extends Microsoft&#039;s existing CPM ad deal for a 10 or 20 year period.

3. An agreement that broadends Microsoft&#039;s existing CPM ad deal into the Keyword-Driven CPC ad space that would be part of a Web Search business that Facebook could enter at any moment they choose to by simply supporting a web search option / results as part of their current People/Group/App search box.  

Microsoft has a HUGE opportunity to beat Google in Advertising by playing their facebook cards carefully.  Steve Ballmer made the right first move by locking up a CPM ad deal through 2011.  However, it is critical that Microsoft support Facebook in Facebook&#039;s coming battle with Google.  This means providing funds to ensure smooth scaling of their infrastructure and headcount.  In addition, Microsoft should be willing to buy shares from any VC&#039;s or others who might be desirous of an early cashout.

In addition to cash, the HUGE play for Microsoft is to obtain an option for a larger stake of Facebook tied to Microsoft pushing 30 to 50 million of their 600+ million app customers into becoming facebook members.  Microsoft should do this now since a large number will ultimately do it later anyway (so it is essentially a wasting asset for Microsoft).  The methodology would be to leverage facebook membership and groups as the best way to get support on Microsoft products and to have Microsoft developers create killer versions / extensions of their desktop apps that have natural groupware components (e.g., Outlook&#039;s calender, Microsoft project, etc.)

This would accelerate Facebook&#039;s already building momentum in the over 25 crowd, bring in more business users who advertisers will pay more to reach and be invaluable in stopping an attempts by Google to establish a beachhead in the social operating system domain.

Google makes money pushing anonymous people off their web properties whereas Facebook makes money keeping people with real identities inside their web properties.  This fundamental difference means that Facebook&#039;s Social Operating System and Application play is ultimately worth more than Google&#039;s search and advertising play.  Microsoft realizes this and the trick is to ensure that Facebook succeeds and to invest Microsoft&#039;s resources (money, users, office suite, browser clout, etc.) in a way that gives Microsoft a big share of the facebook cash flow without necessarily owning the company (which would probably demotivate the facebook employees and some users).

It will be a test of Bill and Steve&#039;s poker playing skills to see if they can let another Harvard drop-out at the table take on the chip leader.  My bet is that Bill and Steve are happy to have Mark be in the limelight so long as Microsoft shareholders benefit.

Thanks,
Lee Lorenzen
CEO, Altura Ventures -- the First Facebook-Only VC Firm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kara,</p>
<p>First of all, IMHO Facebook will be worth $100 billion by Dec. 2008 when they have 200+ million users and they will be valued by the public market at $500 per user based on their multiple sources of revenue.  You can read my &#8220;Triumph of the Nerds &#8212; Part Deux&#8221; post at <a href="http://blog.adonomics.com" rel="nofollow">http://blog.adonomics.com</a> for the detailed discussion as to why.</p>
<p>However, I do believe it would make sense for Facebook to salt away $500 million or so worth of a war chest at a valuation of around $10 billion.  Microsoft would be the logical investor and should ask for the following key deal points:</p>
<p>1. An agreement that Facebook not to sell to Google or allow Google to invest.</p>
<p>2. An agreement that extends Microsoft&#8217;s existing CPM ad deal for a 10 or 20 year period.</p>
<p>3. An agreement that broadends Microsoft&#8217;s existing CPM ad deal into the Keyword-Driven CPC ad space that would be part of a Web Search business that Facebook could enter at any moment they choose to by simply supporting a web search option / results as part of their current People/Group/App search box.  </p>
<p>Microsoft has a HUGE opportunity to beat Google in Advertising by playing their facebook cards carefully.  Steve Ballmer made the right first move by locking up a CPM ad deal through 2011.  However, it is critical that Microsoft support Facebook in Facebook&#8217;s coming battle with Google.  This means providing funds to ensure smooth scaling of their infrastructure and headcount.  In addition, Microsoft should be willing to buy shares from any VC&#8217;s or others who might be desirous of an early cashout.</p>
<p>In addition to cash, the HUGE play for Microsoft is to obtain an option for a larger stake of Facebook tied to Microsoft pushing 30 to 50 million of their 600+ million app customers into becoming facebook members.  Microsoft should do this now since a large number will ultimately do it later anyway (so it is essentially a wasting asset for Microsoft).  The methodology would be to leverage facebook membership and groups as the best way to get support on Microsoft products and to have Microsoft developers create killer versions / extensions of their desktop apps that have natural groupware components (e.g., Outlook&#8217;s calender, Microsoft project, etc.)</p>
<p>This would accelerate Facebook&#8217;s already building momentum in the over 25 crowd, bring in more business users who advertisers will pay more to reach and be invaluable in stopping an attempts by Google to establish a beachhead in the social operating system domain.</p>
<p>Google makes money pushing anonymous people off their web properties whereas Facebook makes money keeping people with real identities inside their web properties.  This fundamental difference means that Facebook&#8217;s Social Operating System and Application play is ultimately worth more than Google&#8217;s search and advertising play.  Microsoft realizes this and the trick is to ensure that Facebook succeeds and to invest Microsoft&#8217;s resources (money, users, office suite, browser clout, etc.) in a way that gives Microsoft a big share of the facebook cash flow without necessarily owning the company (which would probably demotivate the facebook employees and some users).</p>
<p>It will be a test of Bill and Steve&#8217;s poker playing skills to see if they can let another Harvard drop-out at the table take on the chip leader.  My bet is that Bill and Steve are happy to have Mark be in the limelight so long as Microsoft shareholders benefit.</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
Lee Lorenzen<br />
CEO, Altura Ventures &#8212; the First Facebook-Only VC Firm</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 13:36:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Weekly Digest of the Social Networking Space: Sept 12, 2007</title>
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		<dc:creator>Weekly Digest of the Social Networking Space: Sept 12, 2007</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] into zombies&#8221;  Funding: Facebook to raise funds? Still in speculation phase, but Zuckerberg could be fund raising mode. We should learn more by next [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Business News Research &#187; Facebook Seeks Small Fortune To Make A Big One &#171; GigaOM</title>
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		<dc:creator>Business News Research &#187; Facebook Seeks Small Fortune To Make A Big One &#171; GigaOM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 10:00:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Kara Swisher over at All Things D reports that the company is contemplating raising a lot of money to fatten its war chest, as it fights off everyone from MySpace to Google, keep expanding and even keep acquiring smaller players. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Kara Swisher over at All Things D reports that the company is contemplating raising a lot of money to fatten its war chest, as it fights off everyone from MySpace to Google, keep expanding and even keep acquiring smaller players. [...]</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 09:15:57 +0000</pubDate>
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