Comments on: And the Zuckerberg-Bashing Begins… http://kara.allthingsd.com/20071204/and-the-zuckerberg-bashing-begins/ Fri, 10 Feb 2012 01:44:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: dave mcclure http://kara.allthingsd.com/20071204/and-the-zuckerberg-bashing-begins/#comment-1988 dave mcclure Sun, 09 Dec 2007 02:44:55 +0000 http://kara.allthingsd.com/20071204/and-the-zuckerberg-bashing-begins/#comment-1988 @john minnihan: Netscape faceplanted because they were trying to charge for something Microsoft gave away for free, and because they had no effing clue that a portal and/or search might be valuable. it certainly wasn't because of privacy, hubris, or bad press. if Facebook stalls it will be because of limited ability to monetize, not privacy issues. while i admit there's a reason to manage PR -- and in particular, to manage bad PR -- most of the time the press overvalues its own importance. in general, the press REPORTS the news, they don't MAKE the news. there are exceptions, but this isn't one of them. @john minnihan:

Netscape faceplanted because they were trying to charge for something Microsoft gave away for free, and because they had no effing clue that a portal and/or search might be valuable. it certainly wasn’t because of privacy, hubris, or bad press.

if Facebook stalls it will be because of limited ability to monetize, not privacy issues.

while i admit there’s a reason to manage PR — and in particular, to manage bad PR — most of the time the press overvalues its own importance.

in general, the press REPORTS the news, they don’t MAKE the news.

there are exceptions, but this isn’t one of them.

]]> By: Fiascobook, Redux | Digital Daily | John Paczkowski | AllThingsD http://kara.allthingsd.com/20071204/and-the-zuckerberg-bashing-begins/#comment-1940 Fiascobook, Redux | Digital Daily | John Paczkowski | AllThingsD Wed, 05 Dec 2007 21:50:32 +0000 http://kara.allthingsd.com/20071204/and-the-zuckerberg-bashing-begins/#comment-1940 [...] And the Zuckerberg-Bashing Begins… [...] [...] And the Zuckerberg-Bashing Begins… [...]

]]> By: John Minnihan http://kara.allthingsd.com/20071204/and-the-zuckerberg-bashing-begins/#comment-1932 John Minnihan Wed, 05 Dec 2007 15:41:04 +0000 http://kara.allthingsd.com/20071204/and-the-zuckerberg-bashing-begins/#comment-1932 @dave mcclure - there are so many examples of companies in apparently dominant market positions rapidly losing share that I'll remind you of just one: Netscape. I have close friends at A-tier VC in the valley who are saying things like "Beacon is evil. Block it". Friends talk, and you can be sure that everyone at Accel & Greylock understands the position they're in now. @dave mcclure – there are so many examples of companies in apparently dominant market positions rapidly losing share that I’ll remind you of just one: Netscape.

I have close friends at A-tier VC in the valley who are saying things like “Beacon is evil. Block it”. Friends talk, and you can be sure that everyone at Accel & Greylock understands the position they’re in now.

]]> By: John Minnihan http://kara.allthingsd.com/20071204/and-the-zuckerberg-bashing-begins/#comment-1931 John Minnihan Wed, 05 Dec 2007 14:41:45 +0000 http://kara.allthingsd.com/20071204/and-the-zuckerberg-bashing-begins/#comment-1931 @Robert, @Kara - Beacon can easily (for now) be blocked. Apparently, all the javascript that controls this is located behind a common URL: facebook.com/beacon Using a URL-blocker with that in a rule should do the trick. Here’s where I learned about this: http://tinyurl.com/2xjak6 @Robert, @Kara – Beacon can easily (for now) be blocked. Apparently, all the javascript that controls this is located behind a common URL: facebook.com/beacon

Using a URL-blocker with that in a rule should do the trick. Here’s where I learned about this:

http://tinyurl.com/2xjak6

]]> By: Fun bubble 2.0 + some thoughts on FB « ::: Think Macro ::: http://kara.allthingsd.com/20071204/and-the-zuckerberg-bashing-begins/#comment-1929 Fun bubble 2.0 + some thoughts on FB « ::: Think Macro ::: Wed, 05 Dec 2007 14:01:09 +0000 http://kara.allthingsd.com/20071204/and-the-zuckerberg-bashing-begins/#comment-1929 [...] nevertheless, this move raised a lot of antagonism and questions of privacy.  It also unleashed a wave of critique of FB and its founder, Mark [...] [...] nevertheless, this move raised a lot of antagonism and questions of privacy.  It also unleashed a wave of critique of FB and its founder, Mark [...]

]]> By: Four (or Five!) Reasons Why » ….Facebook is the New Friendster http://kara.allthingsd.com/20071204/and-the-zuckerberg-bashing-begins/#comment-1927 Four (or Five!) Reasons Why » ….Facebook is the New Friendster Wed, 05 Dec 2007 12:00:42 +0000 http://kara.allthingsd.com/20071204/and-the-zuckerberg-bashing-begins/#comment-1927 [...] annals of fast-rising tech companies that fail.” allfacebook calls the story linkbait, while Kara Swisher thinks what’s we’re now seeing is the start of [...] [...] annals of fast-rising tech companies that fail.” allfacebook calls the story linkbait, while Kara Swisher thinks what’s we’re now seeing is the start of [...]

]]> By: Kara Swisher http://kara.allthingsd.com/20071204/and-the-zuckerberg-bashing-begins/#comment-1923 Kara Swisher Wed, 05 Dec 2007 10:11:06 +0000 http://kara.allthingsd.com/20071204/and-the-zuckerberg-bashing-begins/#comment-1923 Dave: It was cogent! As you are a cogent fanboy of Mark's! But bad hair day? More like a naughty toddler put Nair all over his scalp. Ooops! Dave:

It was cogent!

As you are a cogent fanboy of Mark’s!

But bad hair day?

More like a naughty toddler put Nair all over his scalp.

Ooops!

]]> By: Kara Swisher http://kara.allthingsd.com/20071204/and-the-zuckerberg-bashing-begins/#comment-1922 Kara Swisher Wed, 05 Dec 2007 10:09:59 +0000 http://kara.allthingsd.com/20071204/and-the-zuckerberg-bashing-begins/#comment-1922 Robert: I do think there is already a Beacon stripper, Dr. Evil. Robert:

I do think there is already a Beacon stripper, Dr. Evil.

]]> By: dave mcclure http://kara.allthingsd.com/20071204/and-the-zuckerberg-bashing-begins/#comment-1920 dave mcclure Wed, 05 Dec 2007 07:25:20 +0000 http://kara.allthingsd.com/20071204/and-the-zuckerberg-bashing-begins/#comment-1920 sorry, they may have faceplanted on Beacon, but josh's post was way over the top and far from "cogent" IMHO. I hardly think 50m users, 100%+ growth rate, & $300m in cash = "jumped the shark". bad hair day? maybe. devoured by sharks? don't think so. sorry, they may have faceplanted on Beacon, but josh’s post was way over the top and far from “cogent” IMHO.

I hardly think 50m users, 100%+ growth rate, & $300m in cash = “jumped the shark”.

bad hair day? maybe.

devoured by sharks? don’t think so.

]]> By: Sean on Life» Blog Archive » Ficklebook http://kara.allthingsd.com/20071204/and-the-zuckerberg-bashing-begins/#comment-1918 Sean on Life» Blog Archive » Ficklebook Wed, 05 Dec 2007 06:41:35 +0000 http://kara.allthingsd.com/20071204/and-the-zuckerberg-bashing-begins/#comment-1918 [...] has turned. Major advertisers are rushing off of the sinking ship called Beacon and rumors of the fall of Zuckerberg are rampant. They have quickly gone from visionaries to the largest threat to privacy on the [...] [...] has turned. Major advertisers are rushing off of the sinking ship called Beacon and rumors of the fall of Zuckerberg are rampant. They have quickly gone from visionaries to the largest threat to privacy on the [...]

]]> By: Robert LaBlah http://kara.allthingsd.com/20071204/and-the-zuckerberg-bashing-begins/#comment-1915 Robert LaBlah Wed, 05 Dec 2007 03:09:09 +0000 http://kara.allthingsd.com/20071204/and-the-zuckerberg-bashing-begins/#comment-1915 I'm just an old man (38!) but where is the damage control. You can screw up, in fact it is inevitable, it is the recovery that matters. Geez...these kids these days! I should get a Web 2.0 VC to fund me to make a widget that strips Beacon, I could get millions of users overnight and have a valuation of (pinky to corner of mouth) ONE MILLION DOLLARS!!!! I’m just an old man (38!) but where is the damage control. You can screw up, in fact it is inevitable, it is the recovery that matters. Geez…these kids these days!

I should get a Web 2.0 VC to fund me to make a widget that strips Beacon, I could get millions of users overnight and have a valuation of (pinky to corner of mouth) ONE MILLION DOLLARS!!!!

]]> By: John Minnihan http://kara.allthingsd.com/20071204/and-the-zuckerberg-bashing-begins/#comment-1910 John Minnihan Tue, 04 Dec 2007 23:12:17 +0000 http://kara.allthingsd.com/20071204/and-the-zuckerberg-bashing-begins/#comment-1910 @Kara - we all have our aspirations... @Kara – we all have our aspirations…

]]> By: Kara Swisher http://kara.allthingsd.com/20071204/and-the-zuckerberg-bashing-begins/#comment-1908 Kara Swisher Tue, 04 Dec 2007 22:51:21 +0000 http://kara.allthingsd.com/20071204/and-the-zuckerberg-bashing-begins/#comment-1908 Hitchens! You realize being a boozy British crank is my goal in life. Hitchens! You realize being a boozy British crank is my goal in life.

]]> By: John Minnihan http://kara.allthingsd.com/20071204/and-the-zuckerberg-bashing-begins/#comment-1907 John Minnihan Tue, 04 Dec 2007 22:47:51 +0000 http://kara.allthingsd.com/20071204/and-the-zuckerberg-bashing-begins/#comment-1907 When the trust is gone, what's left that matters? When the trust is gone, what’s left that matters?

]]> By: Phil Edwards http://kara.allthingsd.com/20071204/and-the-zuckerberg-bashing-begins/#comment-1906 Phil Edwards Tue, 04 Dec 2007 22:22:34 +0000 http://kara.allthingsd.com/20071204/and-the-zuckerberg-bashing-begins/#comment-1906 It seems like every other post is predictably contrarian. It's like reading a Web 2.0 version of Christopher Hitchens. It seems like every other post is predictably contrarian. It’s like reading a Web 2.0 version of Christopher Hitchens.

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