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		<title>By: Kara Swisher</title>
		<link>http://kara.allthingsd.com/20080201/the-inevitable-endgame-for-yahoo/#comment-2793</link>
		<dc:creator>Kara Swisher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 18:29:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris:

I did knock it down at the time and several times PRECIOUSLY, because I knew (via reporting!) that Yahoo was rebuffing all such overtures. I did note that Microsoft kept publicly making statements of interest, but I shot down rumors (which appeared about 43 times over the last year), because of Yahoo&#039;s lack of interest in pursuing talks.

Read the WSJ and NYT today and you will see, this is just what led Microsoft to go hostile. And Yahoo still is not interested and looking for other suitors, although it might have waited too long to act by now and Microsoft could win this long battle.

When I was noting eBay, I did so then because it was the kind of merger partner that Yahoo was more amenable to. 

Again, Jerry Yang has LONG been opposed to any merger with Microsoft, which was true then and probably even more true now (though, as I said, he might have to bow to inevitability).

And, as I said above, many--including me--wrote that SOMETHING was going to happen when Yahoo stock dipped below $20 a share, as it did this week.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris:</p>
<p>I did knock it down at the time and several times PRECIOUSLY, because I knew (via reporting!) that Yahoo was rebuffing all such overtures. I did note that Microsoft kept publicly making statements of interest, but I shot down rumors (which appeared about 43 times over the last year), because of Yahoo&#8217;s lack of interest in pursuing talks.</p>
<p>Read the WSJ and NYT today and you will see, this is just what led Microsoft to go hostile. And Yahoo still is not interested and looking for other suitors, although it might have waited too long to act by now and Microsoft could win this long battle.</p>
<p>When I was noting eBay, I did so then because it was the kind of merger partner that Yahoo was more amenable to. </p>
<p>Again, Jerry Yang has LONG been opposed to any merger with Microsoft, which was true then and probably even more true now (though, as I said, he might have to bow to inevitability).</p>
<p>And, as I said above, many&#8211;including me&#8211;wrote that SOMETHING was going to happen when Yahoo stock dipped below $20 a share, as it did this week.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 04:57:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] weather event. Best MSFT-YHOO one-liner, again from Kara Swisher of Wall Street Journal&#8217;s BoomTown: &#8220;And while it’s never over until it’s over, let me just say, for Yahoo, it’s [...]</description>
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		<title>By: chris rogers</title>
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		<dc:creator>chris rogers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 01:33:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kara,

I searched my memory, then I searched your archives.  If I may, Jan. 11th -- the headline was something along the lines of Microhoo or Yabay, with a theme of &quot;Deal or No Deal.&quot; You unequivocally stated -- No Deal, Howie.  You proceeded to shoot down the rumor Microsoft was sniffing around, for the 43rd time, as the bored talk of investment bankers at lunch, etc.  

To be fair, you didn&#039;t say it would not happen, just that Yahoo wouldn&#039;t be interested.  You put more stock in the idea of a Yahoo-Ebay merger.  Which could still happen in the days to come.  Who knows?  Not me.  Like I said, I was just asking...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kara,</p>
<p>I searched my memory, then I searched your archives.  If I may, Jan. 11th &#8212; the headline was something along the lines of Microhoo or Yabay, with a theme of &#8220;Deal or No Deal.&#8221; You unequivocally stated &#8212; No Deal, Howie.  You proceeded to shoot down the rumor Microsoft was sniffing around, for the 43rd time, as the bored talk of investment bankers at lunch, etc.  </p>
<p>To be fair, you didn&#8217;t say it would not happen, just that Yahoo wouldn&#8217;t be interested.  You put more stock in the idea of a Yahoo-Ebay merger.  Which could still happen in the days to come.  Who knows?  Not me.  Like I said, I was just asking&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Kara Swisher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kara Swisher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 22:12:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris:

I said Yahoo did not want it to happen and had rebuffed overtures each time they were made previously. And when I was shooting down old rumors, I was referring to the rumor on that particular day (which was not true at that time), not about the possibility Microsoft might make a bid. I never said it would definitely not happen ever.

In fact, I said twice this week that after the shares went below $20 a share, Yahoo was in a dangerous situation and had put itself in the path of such a possibility.

See above.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris:</p>
<p>I said Yahoo did not want it to happen and had rebuffed overtures each time they were made previously. And when I was shooting down old rumors, I was referring to the rumor on that particular day (which was not true at that time), not about the possibility Microsoft might make a bid. I never said it would definitely not happen ever.</p>
<p>In fact, I said twice this week that after the shares went below $20 a share, Yahoo was in a dangerous situation and had put itself in the path of such a possibility.</p>
<p>See above.</p>
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		<title>By: Mac Beach</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mac Beach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 22:02:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds like Tony doesn&#039;t get out much.

But Joe, I know this merger is of Biblical proportions, but get a grip man!  I can&#039;t tell if you are making a joke or really Steve Ballmer trying to explain it all to us.

This is the best tech news day in MONTHS!

Some other things happened today that got totally buried.  But that&#039;s just as well, as the interplay between this and the news from Facebook and Google will be spectacular, even more so for not having made headlines.

Whooooeeee!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like Tony doesn&#8217;t get out much.</p>
<p>But Joe, I know this merger is of Biblical proportions, but get a grip man!  I can&#8217;t tell if you are making a joke or really Steve Ballmer trying to explain it all to us.</p>
<p>This is the best tech news day in MONTHS!</p>
<p>Some other things happened today that got totally buried.  But that&#8217;s just as well, as the interplay between this and the news from Facebook and Google will be spectacular, even more so for not having made headlines.</p>
<p>Whooooeeee!</p>
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		<title>By: Microsoft-Yahoo: The business blogosphere speaks - Reuters DealZone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Microsoft-Yahoo: The business blogosphere speaks - Reuters DealZone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 20:10:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#8220;With it&#8217;s I-shall-have-it bid for the troubled Internet giant, Microsoft has made a bold, slightly insane lunge to ensure that it is not sidelined in war with Google to control the Internet. You have to guess the phones were ringing at Google HQ this morning, as other companies-from News Corp. to eBay to Comcast are trying to figure out how to make a competing bid to the $31-per-share offer Microsoft lobbed today. The obvious scenario: That Google would guarantee billions of dollars of revenues from search monetization for another company, so it could enter the race to grab one of the most trafficked sites on the Web.&#8221; &#8211; Kara Swisher, Boomtown [...]</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 19:59:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: The big deal: My link-o-rama - - mathewingram.com/work</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 19:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] All Things D: Kara Swisher of the Wall Street Journal says in her Boomtown blog that a Microsoft offer was inevitable, and that Yahoo made it inevitable by its continuing [...]</description>
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		<title>By: chris rogers</title>
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		<dc:creator>chris rogers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 19:14:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did I read a post recently where KS said this definitely would not happen?  Or was that another takeover rumor?.  Just asking.  I ain&#039;t no cutesy...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did I read a post recently where KS said this definitely would not happen?  Or was that another takeover rumor?.  Just asking.  I ain&#8217;t no cutesy&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Kara Swisher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kara Swisher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 18:58:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Misguided Tony (who is definitely not cutesy):

I and many others have talked about the Microsoft interest in buying Yahoo if the stock dropped below $20. 

I wrote many posts on this--though I thought it was a bad idea each time--about four times specifically discussing the Microsoft interest.

Here&#039;s one from last July:
Simply put, if Yahoo did decide to sell to Microsoft, it would be the end, and not the beginning, for the company. Even if its name remains, Yahoos need only recall what happened to the company that gave it its first big opportunity on the Web by listing the Yahoo directory on its powerful site. The minute it was bought by AOL in 1998, Netscape effectively was finished, and today its influence is negligible. That’s a fate Yahoo must avoid.

And I and everyone else noted the problems got worse last week, in fact, on Tuesday after earnings, when I wrote:

After the underwhelming call, which came after the markets had closed, Yahoo shares were off almost 10% in after-hours trading, falling below a dangerous $20 level to $18.89.

Or, as I like to call it, takeover territory.

And:

That lack of traction and not porky headcount is what has been depressing the stock, which remains in danger of slipping below $20 a share.

From there, things could quickly get out of control for Yahoo and perhaps spin it right into the hands of private equity wolves or others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Misguided Tony (who is definitely not cutesy):</p>
<p>I and many others have talked about the Microsoft interest in buying Yahoo if the stock dropped below $20. </p>
<p>I wrote many posts on this&#8211;though I thought it was a bad idea each time&#8211;about four times specifically discussing the Microsoft interest.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s one from last July:<br />
Simply put, if Yahoo did decide to sell to Microsoft, it would be the end, and not the beginning, for the company. Even if its name remains, Yahoos need only recall what happened to the company that gave it its first big opportunity on the Web by listing the Yahoo directory on its powerful site. The minute it was bought by AOL in 1998, Netscape effectively was finished, and today its influence is negligible. That’s a fate Yahoo must avoid.</p>
<p>And I and everyone else noted the problems got worse last week, in fact, on Tuesday after earnings, when I wrote:</p>
<p>After the underwhelming call, which came after the markets had closed, Yahoo shares were off almost 10% in after-hours trading, falling below a dangerous $20 level to $18.89.</p>
<p>Or, as I like to call it, takeover territory.</p>
<p>And:</p>
<p>That lack of traction and not porky headcount is what has been depressing the stock, which remains in danger of slipping below $20 a share.</p>
<p>From there, things could quickly get out of control for Yahoo and perhaps spin it right into the hands of private equity wolves or others.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Franscella</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Franscella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 16:59:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I write this post at the bottom of the page, I couldn’t, to save my life, tell you what any of the ads on this page are pushing. It’s just too easy to not pay attention to ads on the Internet, which is why companies like Yahoo are never going to generate the kind of ad dollars they’d like to using the current method. People buying ads – I imagine – browse the Internet, they must realize how easy it is to not pay attention to ads.

If Yahoo really wants to turn the ad revenue thing around, they need to start thinking more like TV networks and less like search engines.

They need to pay high traffic Web sites for exclusive rights to make them available only through an exclusive Yahoo portal, and with those rights post two to three 30-second ads, that can’t be skipped over, every time a computer visits.

Think about it, isn&#039;t that what TV networks do with the NFL, NASCAR and other high viewer events? Buy exclusive rights and then sell ads. Works for them, it would work for Yahoo as well.

What if you could read the NYT, WSJ and LA Times only through the Yahoo portal? What if you could only view NASCAR.com, NFL.com, NBA.com  (and all related teams) etc ... only through the Yahoo  portal? How much would a 30 second ad be worth there?

This would be good for surfers as well. Yahoo could keep it&#039;s general search engine available for people who want 144,000 returns on a search, but exclusivity would make life easier for people  searching for information from only legitimate Web sites.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I write this post at the bottom of the page, I couldn’t, to save my life, tell you what any of the ads on this page are pushing. It’s just too easy to not pay attention to ads on the Internet, which is why companies like Yahoo are never going to generate the kind of ad dollars they’d like to using the current method. People buying ads – I imagine – browse the Internet, they must realize how easy it is to not pay attention to ads.</p>
<p>If Yahoo really wants to turn the ad revenue thing around, they need to start thinking more like TV networks and less like search engines.</p>
<p>They need to pay high traffic Web sites for exclusive rights to make them available only through an exclusive Yahoo portal, and with those rights post two to three 30-second ads, that can’t be skipped over, every time a computer visits.</p>
<p>Think about it, isn&#8217;t that what TV networks do with the NFL, NASCAR and other high viewer events? Buy exclusive rights and then sell ads. Works for them, it would work for Yahoo as well.</p>
<p>What if you could read the NYT, WSJ and LA Times only through the Yahoo portal? What if you could only view NASCAR.com, NFL.com, NBA.com  (and all related teams) etc &#8230; only through the Yahoo  portal? How much would a 30 second ad be worth there?</p>
<p>This would be good for surfers as well. Yahoo could keep it&#8217;s general search engine available for people who want 144,000 returns on a search, but exclusivity would make life easier for people  searching for information from only legitimate Web sites.</p>
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		<title>By: nima negahban</title>
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		<dc:creator>nima negahban</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 16:34:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@tony - keep it collegial man, we&#039;ve all fallen for the siren song of the facebook story every now and then.  Ms. K&#039;s blog has so much perspective I thought she actually lived outside the valley this morning, I checked her blog first while the west was sleeping.

anyways, 

I&#039;m really interested to see if MS pulls this off. Their is the obvious benefit of getting those highly trafficked web properties and potentially search and ad delivery intelligence.

But Also MS has probably the largest glut of highly interactive electronic real estate in the world (think devices, and windows desktop widgets). They just need to line up the tubes correctly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@tony &#8211; keep it collegial man, we&#8217;ve all fallen for the siren song of the facebook story every now and then.  Ms. K&#8217;s blog has so much perspective I thought she actually lived outside the valley this morning, I checked her blog first while the west was sleeping.</p>
<p>anyways, </p>
<p>I&#8217;m really interested to see if MS pulls this off. Their is the obvious benefit of getting those highly trafficked web properties and potentially search and ad delivery intelligence.</p>
<p>But Also MS has probably the largest glut of highly interactive electronic real estate in the world (think devices, and windows desktop widgets). They just need to line up the tubes correctly.</p>
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		<title>By: tony wilson</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 16:00:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>During all your critical articles recently on Yang and Yahoo, I don&#039;t recall you touting this buyout as likely. Seems you missed the boat on a huge story, at least from an investor point of view. A bit more homework and a bit less cutesy videos and other nonsense (enough with the Facebook tripe!) would serve you well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>During all your critical articles recently on Yang and Yahoo, I don&#8217;t recall you touting this buyout as likely. Seems you missed the boat on a huge story, at least from an investor point of view. A bit more homework and a bit less cutesy videos and other nonsense (enough with the Facebook tripe!) would serve you well.</p>
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		<title>By: You Know, the AOL-Time Warner Merger Sounded Like a Good Idea at the Time, Too &#124; John Paczkowski &#124; Digital Daily &#124; AllThingsD</title>
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