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		<title>By: Facebook and the Reality of Your Online Content &#124; PR2.0</title>
		<link>http://kara.allthingsd.com/20090216/you-have-zero-privacy-anyway-get-over-it-that-goes-double-on-social-networks/#comment-9227</link>
		<dc:creator>Facebook and the Reality of Your Online Content &#124; PR2.0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2009 04:25:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Kara Swisher so brilliantly educates us, &#8220;Here’s the key definition of interactive: ‘Mutually or [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Fantblog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Google Adsense annonser blir personliga</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fantblog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Google Adsense annonser blir personliga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 13:10:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Som Suns VD Scott McNealy sa 1999, &#8220;You Have Zero Privacy Anyway. Get Over It&#8221;  [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Response #4 Do We Need a Bill of Rights for the Social Web? &#171; Navigating the Channels of Communication</title>
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		<dc:creator>Response #4 Do We Need a Bill of Rights for the Social Web? &#171; Navigating the Channels of Communication</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 19:26:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Facebook was involved in controversy over it&#8217;s Terms of Service, which they changed to basically assert ownership of all content posted by its users.  After [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Facebook Privacy Policy - Can You Blame Them? &#171; Socialnomics - Social Media Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Facebook Privacy Policy - Can You Blame Them? &#171; Socialnomics - Social Media Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 19:49:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] collecting feedback on how the new one should be drafted and what it should incorporate.  But as Kara Swisher points out in her article on BoomTown we don&#8217;t have any privacy so get over it!  You are on a social network to share. Possibly [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] collecting feedback on how the new one should be drafted and what it should incorporate.  But as Kara Swisher points out in her article on BoomTown we don&#8217;t have any privacy so get over it!  You are on a social network to share. Possibly [...]</p>
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		<title>By: SocialSofties &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Privacy op Social Networking Sites</title>
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		<dc:creator>SocialSofties &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Privacy op Social Networking Sites</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 11:05:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Weekend Update 2.21.09 &#124; Beth Callaghan &#124; Digital Daily &#124; AllThingsD</title>
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		<dc:creator>Weekend Update 2.21.09 &#124; Beth Callaghan &#124; Digital Daily &#124; AllThingsD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 00:05:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] followed this week&#8217;s Facebook drama from the first rumblings of dissatisfaction (and jaded irony) with the copyright changes in the social network&#8217;s terms of service on through to full-on [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] followed this week&#8217;s Facebook drama from the first rumblings of dissatisfaction (and jaded irony) with the copyright changes in the social network&#8217;s terms of service on through to full-on [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Facebook comes clean&#8230; at UbiKann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Facebook comes clean&#8230; at UbiKann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2009 15:34:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] that is what you&#8217;ll find in Facebook&#8217;s updated &#8220;Terms of Service&#8221;, dixit Kara Swisher, adding that &#8216;hey, if you share something especially on social networks you are asking for [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Steffen Seitz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steffen Seitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 08:35:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Kara,

&quot;Facebook has no intention of using your material or selling it or asserting ownership rights and you know it. If Time Warner uploads a movie someday, do you actually think Facebook is going to claim ownership?&quot;

What makes you so sure about it? What if its not a company like Time Warner but some other small company which is not at eye level with Facebook?

To me Facebook is a platform and they have to find other ways to gain revenues. Obiously, it&#039;s not advertising but it shouldn`t be mash ups out of my stuff either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Kara,</p>
<p>&#8220;Facebook has no intention of using your material or selling it or asserting ownership rights and you know it. If Time Warner uploads a movie someday, do you actually think Facebook is going to claim ownership?&#8221;</p>
<p>What makes you so sure about it? What if its not a company like Time Warner but some other small company which is not at eye level with Facebook?</p>
<p>To me Facebook is a platform and they have to find other ways to gain revenues. Obiously, it&#8217;s not advertising but it shouldn`t be mash ups out of my stuff either.</p>
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		<title>By: The trials and tribulations of the Facebook Terms of Service &#171; Andi Narvaez: Taking it in</title>
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		<dc:creator>The trials and tribulations of the Facebook Terms of Service &#171; Andi Narvaez: Taking it in</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 07:07:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Kara Swisher has a way of telling things on All Things Digital, but I agree. We DO have zero privacy anyway and we need to get over it. At least, we have zero of the privacy in the way we usually think about privacy. The times, they [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Kara Swisher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kara Swisher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 02:10:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A:

I don&#039;t agree with you and your only argument is that I am some stupid girl who does not know squat, except to say snarky things.

Now, I see the genesis of Rocketboom, that bastion of high quality journalism! 

I have written about Facebook almost since its existence, have spent a ton of time reporting on the company and, unlike you, actually breaking news stories on its efforts. How much reporting do you do? None, I would bet.

Before that I covered digital issues for the Washington Post and the Wall Street Journal and wrote two books on the topic.

Frankly, I&#039;d go with me over your rants any day, but I am biased.

But, of course, I am some dumb lady who needs you to explain it all for me!

My point about the copyright is that Facebook was never going to take people&#039;s content and they never would have. They made a dumb error in changing the TOS and changed it back. It was not some plot to get the stellar video vault of Rocketboom.

The post above was primarily about privacy or lack thereof in the social networking space and you can twist it all you like to suit your needs, but please try to be accurate.

I never said whether FB should or should not backtrack. I was making a point, with some jokes that you clearly don&#039;t like, about privacy.

As to the four posts: It is really none of your business what I choose to post on. But please, I beg you, don&#039;t read anymore, as it is clearly causing you pain.</description>
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<p>I don&#8217;t agree with you and your only argument is that I am some stupid girl who does not know squat, except to say snarky things.</p>
<p>Now, I see the genesis of Rocketboom, that bastion of high quality journalism! </p>
<p>I have written about Facebook almost since its existence, have spent a ton of time reporting on the company and, unlike you, actually breaking news stories on its efforts. How much reporting do you do? None, I would bet.</p>
<p>Before that I covered digital issues for the Washington Post and the Wall Street Journal and wrote two books on the topic.</p>
<p>Frankly, I&#8217;d go with me over your rants any day, but I am biased.</p>
<p>But, of course, I am some dumb lady who needs you to explain it all for me!</p>
<p>My point about the copyright is that Facebook was never going to take people&#8217;s content and they never would have. They made a dumb error in changing the TOS and changed it back. It was not some plot to get the stellar video vault of Rocketboom.</p>
<p>The post above was primarily about privacy or lack thereof in the social networking space and you can twist it all you like to suit your needs, but please try to be accurate.</p>
<p>I never said whether FB should or should not backtrack. I was making a point, with some jokes that you clearly don&#8217;t like, about privacy.</p>
<p>As to the four posts: It is really none of your business what I choose to post on. But please, I beg you, don&#8217;t read anymore, as it is clearly causing you pain.</p>
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		<title>By: BoomTown Decodes the Zuckerberg Terms of Service My-Bad Memo (Now With 10 Percent More &#8220;So Very Sorrys!&#8221;) &#124; Kara Swisher &#124; BoomTown &#124; AllThingsD</title>
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		<dc:creator>BoomTown Decodes the Zuckerberg Terms of Service My-Bad Memo (Now With 10 Percent More &#8220;So Very Sorrys!&#8221;) &#124; Kara Swisher &#124; BoomTown &#124; AllThingsD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 16:12:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] fact, Zuckerberg has been ensconced in his Silicon Valley lair for years now, counting down until he knows precisely everything about everyone&#8217;s drunken [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Mixed Feelings about Latest Facebook Privacy Fiasco &#124; The Technology Liberation Front</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mixed Feelings about Latest Facebook Privacy Fiasco &#124; The Technology Liberation Front</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 16:03:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] [More interesting thoughts on this episode here, here,  here, and here.] [...]</description>
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		<title>By: andrew baron</title>
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		<dc:creator>andrew baron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 13:17:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Facebook has no intention of using your material or selling it or asserting ownership rights and you know it.&quot;

Kara, I hope you have a lawyer look over your contracts before you sign them.

&quot;You’re just making a lot of noise over what will be a straw man issue. That is very irresponsible of you, but makes for some very flame-throwing assertions!&quot;

Irresponsible!!! YOU POSTED 4 blog posts on this!!!! Why did Zuckerburg change the terms back then? There must of been a reason that you were not concerned about. 

And now you know Im upset about your blog- because you dont have command of the subject, but you insist that you do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Facebook has no intention of using your material or selling it or asserting ownership rights and you know it.&#8221;</p>
<p>Kara, I hope you have a lawyer look over your contracts before you sign them.</p>
<p>&#8220;You’re just making a lot of noise over what will be a straw man issue. That is very irresponsible of you, but makes for some very flame-throwing assertions!&#8221;</p>
<p>Irresponsible!!! YOU POSTED 4 blog posts on this!!!! Why did Zuckerburg change the terms back then? There must of been a reason that you were not concerned about. </p>
<p>And now you know Im upset about your blog- because you dont have command of the subject, but you insist that you do.</p>
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		<title>By: 新的MySpace移动网站可以从Facebook那赢回用户吗？ - 读写网唯一官方中文站 - 搜狐IT独立群体博客</title>
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		<dc:creator>新的MySpace移动网站可以从Facebook那赢回用户吗？ - 读写网唯一官方中文站 - 搜狐IT独立群体博客</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 09:43:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 在过去的几天，技术博客圈正热衷于对Facebook修改服务条款后所带来的隐患进行讨论，这个服务条款的更新意味着社交网络网站现在有权保存你的所有个人资料。如果此时MySpace利用现在的杯葛Facebook倡议以及现在Facebook用户对服务条款的不满这些对手的不利因素，适时地宣布一些对MySpace公司有利的好消息，那么现在真是一个绝佳的时机。 [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 在过去的几天，技术博客圈正热衷于对Facebook修改服务条款后所带来的隐患进行讨论，这个服务条款的更新意味着社交网络网站现在有权保存你的所有个人资料。如果此时MySpace利用现在的杯葛Facebook倡议以及现在Facebook用户对服务条款的不满这些对手的不利因素，适时地宣布一些对MySpace公司有利的好消息，那么现在真是一个绝佳的时机。 [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Bacon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Bacon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 08:14:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny thing about privacy, we all want it, but if we could be on a reality show for a chance to make a fool of ourselves (and win $$) wouldn&#039;t we all do it? Well, not all of us, but still. 

I&#039;ve never understood the whole debate about online privacy unless everyone has a lot to hide. Obviously I don&#039;t want my passwords or usernames given out, but just by posting here, aren&#039;t I exposing myself, a blog, my thoughts on this subject? Which are then, in turn free for use by AllThingsD? Can&#039;t they use comments to learn about readers? 

They do it with your IP address (by tracking what brought you to the site, how you navigated through it, where you went after), or at least they could. Is that wrong. 

Funny, cause before coming to this post (thanks for the Tweet about it), I actually had a different opinion on Facebook&#039;s recently-reversed claims about privacy. Now though, I have to agree with Kara. 

I&#039;m fine with sites using my info for marketing purposes--mostly cause I work in marketing communications. The risk is what&#039;s to stop them from looking at truly private items? The true &quot;big brother&quot; way of looking into our lives? I guess though that the same argument that applies to bad TV shows applies to online privacy. If you don&#039;t like it, turn the channel or shut it off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny thing about privacy, we all want it, but if we could be on a reality show for a chance to make a fool of ourselves (and win $$) wouldn&#8217;t we all do it? Well, not all of us, but still. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never understood the whole debate about online privacy unless everyone has a lot to hide. Obviously I don&#8217;t want my passwords or usernames given out, but just by posting here, aren&#8217;t I exposing myself, a blog, my thoughts on this subject? Which are then, in turn free for use by AllThingsD? Can&#8217;t they use comments to learn about readers? </p>
<p>They do it with your IP address (by tracking what brought you to the site, how you navigated through it, where you went after), or at least they could. Is that wrong. </p>
<p>Funny, cause before coming to this post (thanks for the Tweet about it), I actually had a different opinion on Facebook&#8217;s recently-reversed claims about privacy. Now though, I have to agree with Kara. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m fine with sites using my info for marketing purposes&#8211;mostly cause I work in marketing communications. The risk is what&#8217;s to stop them from looking at truly private items? The true &#8220;big brother&#8221; way of looking into our lives? I guess though that the same argument that applies to bad TV shows applies to online privacy. If you don&#8217;t like it, turn the channel or shut it off.</p>
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