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		<title>By: What’s Really Behind the Rupe-a-Dope With Google and Microsoft? Here Are Five Possibilities! &#124; The Campaign Against Google</title>
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		<dc:creator>What’s Really Behind the Rupe-a-Dope With Google and Microsoft? Here Are Five Possibilities! &#124; The Campaign Against Google</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 20:16:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: A Very Short List: Publishers Who&#8217;ve Actually Told Google To Take A Hike &#124; Peter Kafka &#124; MediaMemo &#124; AllThingsD</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Very Short List: Publishers Who&#8217;ve Actually Told Google To Take A Hike &#124; Peter Kafka &#124; MediaMemo &#124; AllThingsD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 16:08:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] saber-rattling we&#8217;re seen from media outlets &#8212; most notably the Associated Press and News Corp. (NWS), which owns this [...]</description>
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		<title>By: BoomTown Decodes Google CEO Schmidt&#8217;s Shut-Up-You-Whiny-News-Folk Op-Ed (So You Don&#8217;t Have To)! &#124; Kara Swisher &#124; BoomTown &#124; AllThingsD</title>
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		<dc:creator>BoomTown Decodes Google CEO Schmidt&#8217;s Shut-Up-You-Whiny-News-Folk Op-Ed (So You Don&#8217;t Have To)! &#124; Kara Swisher &#124; BoomTown &#124; AllThingsD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 22:59:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] and foremost of the attackers has been Rupert Murdoch, CEO and ruler-of-all-he-surveys at News Corp. (NWS), which owns The Wall Street [...]</description>
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		<title>By: kiki47890</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 16:45:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Retreat to the Walled Garden &#171; The Balancing Act</title>
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		<dc:creator>Retreat to the Walled Garden &#171; The Balancing Act</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 18:08:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] thanks to the fabulous Kara Swisher for her pointer to the Murdoch interview (her recent blog post on News Corp-Google-Microsoft provides a thoughtful perspective on that particular [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Retreat to the Walled Garden &#171; The Balancing Act</title>
		<link>http://kara.allthingsd.com/20091124/whats-really-behind-the-rupe-a-dope-with-google-and-microsoft-here-are-five-possibilities/#comment-19931</link>
		<dc:creator>Retreat to the Walled Garden &#171; The Balancing Act</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 06:01:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] thanks to the fabulous Kara Swisher for her pointer to the Murdoch interview.  Her recent blog post on the News Corp-Google-Microsoft three-way provides a thoughtful perspective on these [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jim Hassinger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Hassinger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 03:03:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s a whole lot simpler than that. It&#039;s the same old rope-a-dope as his publications do with &quot;the liberal press.&quot; They call them that to confuse the umpires and to get other, more honest media to bend over backwards. Then FOX can call itself &quot;fair and balanced,&quot; and pretend to be a news station. I understand that MySpace owes Google a ton of money from an ad deal that they didn&#039;t deliver on. $100 million or so that MySpace didn&#039;t send to Google. This way, they&#039;re hoping to exert pressure on Google by calling them thieves. He&#039;s the one stealing.

Of course, we could be lucky and Woopert&#039;s media empire could be collapsing. Fox News is the only thing that doing well, after all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s a whole lot simpler than that. It&#8217;s the same old rope-a-dope as his publications do with &#8220;the liberal press.&#8221; They call them that to confuse the umpires and to get other, more honest media to bend over backwards. Then FOX can call itself &#8220;fair and balanced,&#8221; and pretend to be a news station. I understand that MySpace owes Google a ton of money from an ad deal that they didn&#8217;t deliver on. $100 million or so that MySpace didn&#8217;t send to Google. This way, they&#8217;re hoping to exert pressure on Google by calling them thieves. He&#8217;s the one stealing.</p>
<p>Of course, we could be lucky and Woopert&#8217;s media empire could be collapsing. Fox News is the only thing that doing well, after all.</p>
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		<title>By: 11.28.09 Weekend Update- Black Friday, Blue Saturday Edition [Digital Daily] &#124; TECHNICK</title>
		<link>http://kara.allthingsd.com/20091124/whats-really-behind-the-rupe-a-dope-with-google-and-microsoft-here-are-five-possibilities/#comment-19864</link>
		<dc:creator>11.28.09 Weekend Update- Black Friday, Blue Saturday Edition [Digital Daily] &#124; TECHNICK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 02:44:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] an attempt to tip the karmic balance in Asana’s favor. Kara showed no fear in a post this week, addressing head on the what-ifs raised by our spicy chairman Rupert Murdoch. Rupe has threatened to remove content from search giant Google (GOOG) and Kara decided to fill [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] an attempt to tip the karmic balance in Asana’s favor. Kara showed no fear in a post this week, addressing head on the what-ifs raised by our spicy chairman Rupert Murdoch. Rupe has threatened to remove content from search giant Google (GOOG) and Kara decided to fill [...]</p>
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		<title>By: 11.28.09 Weekend Update- Black Friday, Blue Saturday Edition &#124; Drake Martinet &#124; Digital Daily &#124; AllThingsD</title>
		<link>http://kara.allthingsd.com/20091124/whats-really-behind-the-rupe-a-dope-with-google-and-microsoft-here-are-five-possibilities/#comment-19860</link>
		<dc:creator>11.28.09 Weekend Update- Black Friday, Blue Saturday Edition &#124; Drake Martinet &#124; Digital Daily &#124; AllThingsD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 22:09:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] an attempt to tip the karmic balance in Asana’s favor. Kara showed no fear in a post this week, addressing head on the what-ifs raised by our spicy chairman Rupert Murdoch. Rupe has threatened to remove content from search giant Google (GOOG) and Kara decided to fill [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] an attempt to tip the karmic balance in Asana’s favor. Kara showed no fear in a post this week, addressing head on the what-ifs raised by our spicy chairman Rupert Murdoch. Rupe has threatened to remove content from search giant Google (GOOG) and Kara decided to fill [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Harrison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Harrison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 23:54:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>murdoch is about 10 years too late with this approach...when he was doing a deal with mci for shopping he should have been thinking about newspapers, his ballywick</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>murdoch is about 10 years too late with this approach&#8230;when he was doing a deal with mci for shopping he should have been thinking about newspapers, his ballywick</p>
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		<title>By: Fred Hamranhansenhansen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fred Hamranhansenhansen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 03:57:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The worst thing about this for NewsCorp is the opportunity cost of looking backwards. They should be inventing new ways to publish their content that are so compelling that I&#039;m willing to pay for them. Running inside a browser is like self-serve content, you can&#039;t charge for it. But you can charge for every other thing, like iPhone apps or iTunes/Amazon&#039;s media downloads, or set-top boxes, or any number of interesting new ways to find and enjoy content. It&#039;s only the Web that is free because it is such a basic experience. The Web is the foyer to the whole digital world, once I am on the Web, you have an opportunity to sell me every other thing in the world in digital form.

When the iPhone was released, people asked Steve Jobs if he was worried that iPhone would cannibalize iPod, and he said he&#039;d rather Apple cannibalize the iPod instead of somebody else. In other words, if you are in the lead in a sector, you can&#039;t hold back progress to protect that lead, you have to charge forward faster than anyone else so that when the next era comes, you lead in that as well. Apple transformed their success in digital media players to a success in smartphones. NewsCorp has to transform their success in glossy paper magazine subscriptions to success in glossy iPhone/Kindle magazine subscriptions.

The Web is so basic compared to every other digital thing. If you can&#039;t out-compete the Web experience with some other digital media, then you are truly not worthy of sticking around.

In short, put things that people are willing to pay for behind your paywall, and advertise them on your free pages, where Google is sending you 90% of your traffic every day.

Google is handing NewsCorp the ball, but NewsCorp is dropping it and complaining that they want to have their own ball. That is not how the Web works, it&#039;s a network. Your own ball is whatever else you do outside of the Web. In the past that was print, DVD, CD, but now it is online versions of the same.

In the early days of YouTube, there were many full TV episodes on there, even whole seasons, just uploaded by users. I watched the first 3 seasons of a popular TV show in a little low-quality 320x240 window because there was no other online option. Then iTunes started offering much better quality versions of the episode for $2 each, and I bought seasons 4-10 and then after I watched all those, I bought seasons 1-3. Without YouTube, I wouldn&#039;t have even known this particular show existed. Google sold me 10 seasons of a Paramount TV show at DVD prices. The low-quality Web versions were not competing with the iTunes versions, just advertising them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The worst thing about this for NewsCorp is the opportunity cost of looking backwards. They should be inventing new ways to publish their content that are so compelling that I&#8217;m willing to pay for them. Running inside a browser is like self-serve content, you can&#8217;t charge for it. But you can charge for every other thing, like iPhone apps or iTunes/Amazon&#8217;s media downloads, or set-top boxes, or any number of interesting new ways to find and enjoy content. It&#8217;s only the Web that is free because it is such a basic experience. The Web is the foyer to the whole digital world, once I am on the Web, you have an opportunity to sell me every other thing in the world in digital form.</p>
<p>When the iPhone was released, people asked Steve Jobs if he was worried that iPhone would cannibalize iPod, and he said he&#8217;d rather Apple cannibalize the iPod instead of somebody else. In other words, if you are in the lead in a sector, you can&#8217;t hold back progress to protect that lead, you have to charge forward faster than anyone else so that when the next era comes, you lead in that as well. Apple transformed their success in digital media players to a success in smartphones. NewsCorp has to transform their success in glossy paper magazine subscriptions to success in glossy iPhone/Kindle magazine subscriptions.</p>
<p>The Web is so basic compared to every other digital thing. If you can&#8217;t out-compete the Web experience with some other digital media, then you are truly not worthy of sticking around.</p>
<p>In short, put things that people are willing to pay for behind your paywall, and advertise them on your free pages, where Google is sending you 90% of your traffic every day.</p>
<p>Google is handing NewsCorp the ball, but NewsCorp is dropping it and complaining that they want to have their own ball. That is not how the Web works, it&#8217;s a network. Your own ball is whatever else you do outside of the Web. In the past that was print, DVD, CD, but now it is online versions of the same.</p>
<p>In the early days of YouTube, there were many full TV episodes on there, even whole seasons, just uploaded by users. I watched the first 3 seasons of a popular TV show in a little low-quality 320&#215;240 window because there was no other online option. Then iTunes started offering much better quality versions of the episode for $2 each, and I bought seasons 4-10 and then after I watched all those, I bought seasons 1-3. Without YouTube, I wouldn&#8217;t have even known this particular show existed. Google sold me 10 seasons of a Paramount TV show at DVD prices. The low-quality Web versions were not competing with the iTunes versions, just advertising them.</p>
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		<title>By: Rupert Murdoch Wants You Pay, Sky News Interview</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rupert Murdoch Wants You Pay, Sky News Interview</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 03:18:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] You gotta be damn good to make people pay for what you put onto the web, because not everyone is in sync with you Mr. Rupert Murdoch.  Some prominent news organizations have already denounced that they are going to charge people for contents, instead they take the new route by providing excellent free contents.  On a second thought, new comers may not mind so much, because the new journalistic startups then becoming the alternatives, that&#8217;s the alternative of pay.  In the end, I think everything will play out as if an invisible hand was there to direct the market.  The free enterprise will dictate which model will be the best for contents on the net, free versus pay.  Only the future could tell if Mr. Rupert Murdoch is right.  Source. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] You gotta be damn good to make people pay for what you put onto the web, because not everyone is in sync with you Mr. Rupert Murdoch.  Some prominent news organizations have already denounced that they are going to charge people for contents, instead they take the new route by providing excellent free contents.  On a second thought, new comers may not mind so much, because the new journalistic startups then becoming the alternatives, that&#8217;s the alternative of pay.  In the end, I think everything will play out as if an invisible hand was there to direct the market.  The free enterprise will dictate which model will be the best for contents on the net, free versus pay.  Only the future could tell if Mr. Rupert Murdoch is right.  Source. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Sigal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Sigal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 20:17:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What Google loses in a two-fer scenario where News Corp is simultaneously de-indexing Google and doing a deal with Bing is that Microsoft gains the marketing ability to tout Google as the incomplete search engine (imagine: &quot;Family Guy?  Google doesn&#039;t have it.  Bing Does. Fox News?  Google does have it.  Bing does...)

Just as Google knows what traffic to News Corp is worth, they REALLY know what every fractional percentage of search share is worth, which is where the real economic analysis plays out.

Hence, a deal with Microsoft that allows media cos like News Corp (presumably in tandem with other media players - mainstream and longtail) to tout economics that &#039;recognize their value&#039; to search engines&#039; index completeness, and simultaneously props up the preferred partner (Bing in this case) as having content that Google doesn&#039;t is a win-win for the media guys and Microsoft.  

In the good old days, MS would throw unlimited dollars at weakening the foundation of their strongest competitor.  Attacking the efficacy of free indexing by paying/rev sharing for it, (theoretically) weakens Google, bolsters Bing and  is a reasoned plank in a &#039;pay wall&#039; strategy, as much as I hate to say it as a New Media guy.

Mark</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What Google loses in a two-fer scenario where News Corp is simultaneously de-indexing Google and doing a deal with Bing is that Microsoft gains the marketing ability to tout Google as the incomplete search engine (imagine: &#8220;Family Guy?  Google doesn&#8217;t have it.  Bing Does. Fox News?  Google does have it.  Bing does&#8230;)</p>
<p>Just as Google knows what traffic to News Corp is worth, they REALLY know what every fractional percentage of search share is worth, which is where the real economic analysis plays out.</p>
<p>Hence, a deal with Microsoft that allows media cos like News Corp (presumably in tandem with other media players &#8211; mainstream and longtail) to tout economics that &#8216;recognize their value&#8217; to search engines&#8217; index completeness, and simultaneously props up the preferred partner (Bing in this case) as having content that Google doesn&#8217;t is a win-win for the media guys and Microsoft.  </p>
<p>In the good old days, MS would throw unlimited dollars at weakening the foundation of their strongest competitor.  Attacking the efficacy of free indexing by paying/rev sharing for it, (theoretically) weakens Google, bolsters Bing and  is a reasoned plank in a &#8216;pay wall&#8217; strategy, as much as I hate to say it as a New Media guy.</p>
<p>Mark</p>
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		<title>By: Mac Beach</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mac Beach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 20:07:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As someone who PAYS to use both the WSJ Online as well as paying for document storage on Google let me offer a sample point for Mr. Murdoch:

If I have to choose between using Google and using the Wall Street journal I&#039;ll choose Google.

I started out as a paper subscriber in the Washington DC suburbs.  I always got my paper a day late, first delivered by mail, then to the doorstep (but still late).  I eagerly switched to the Online service.  (I live 3 hours from DC now and I&#039;m quite sure getting a current print copy delivered to my doorstep is out of the question.)

Since then the Online service has steadily (if glacially) improved, but it has far to go even when compared to upstart alternatives when it comes to organization of content, feed quality, e-mail notifications, &quot;social&quot; features&quot;... the list goes on.  None of these problems can be blamed on Google.

Nor can Google be blamed for News Corp. buying a property at its peak (Myspace) and riding it off a cliff into the canyon below.

Daily I access WSJ articles that can only be read because I am a subscriber.  I get to those articles in a number of ways, the least of which is the Journals front page (which I rarely access).

I regularly click through to ads on WSJ content.  News Corp should be thrilled about this.  But unfortunately it is quite common for those ads to fail to render.   My browser status will say something like &quot;35 of 37 items read&quot;, but as these things are driven (as I&#039;ve often complained) by poorly written scripts, the one or two items on a slow or downed server somewhere keep the entire ad from displaying, and eventually I give up.

Instead of focusing on Google, maybe Mr. Murdoch needs to re-evaluate some of the sycophants that he no doubt has surrounded himself with over the years.  The ones who are telling him that they are executing perfectly, but are held back by some villain far away.

As stated, I have no problem PAYING for WSJ content.  I do have a problem being forced to use Bing, or the Journals home page to get to that content.

Some advice that Mr. Murdoch should not need to be given:  

If you can&#039;t make your products take advantage of synergistic effects, dump the ones that are losing money.

If you can&#039;t make your online content actually work as designed, figure out who to replace.

If you think your content is completely unique and irreplaceable, up your subscription price to $1000+ a year and go back to print.

Finally, if you think doing a deal with Microsoft represents salvation, you might check results from a few companies that have already gone down that path.

Good luck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As someone who PAYS to use both the WSJ Online as well as paying for document storage on Google let me offer a sample point for Mr. Murdoch:</p>
<p>If I have to choose between using Google and using the Wall Street journal I&#8217;ll choose Google.</p>
<p>I started out as a paper subscriber in the Washington DC suburbs.  I always got my paper a day late, first delivered by mail, then to the doorstep (but still late).  I eagerly switched to the Online service.  (I live 3 hours from DC now and I&#8217;m quite sure getting a current print copy delivered to my doorstep is out of the question.)</p>
<p>Since then the Online service has steadily (if glacially) improved, but it has far to go even when compared to upstart alternatives when it comes to organization of content, feed quality, e-mail notifications, &#8220;social&#8221; features&#8221;&#8230; the list goes on.  None of these problems can be blamed on Google.</p>
<p>Nor can Google be blamed for News Corp. buying a property at its peak (Myspace) and riding it off a cliff into the canyon below.</p>
<p>Daily I access WSJ articles that can only be read because I am a subscriber.  I get to those articles in a number of ways, the least of which is the Journals front page (which I rarely access).</p>
<p>I regularly click through to ads on WSJ content.  News Corp should be thrilled about this.  But unfortunately it is quite common for those ads to fail to render.   My browser status will say something like &#8220;35 of 37 items read&#8221;, but as these things are driven (as I&#8217;ve often complained) by poorly written scripts, the one or two items on a slow or downed server somewhere keep the entire ad from displaying, and eventually I give up.</p>
<p>Instead of focusing on Google, maybe Mr. Murdoch needs to re-evaluate some of the sycophants that he no doubt has surrounded himself with over the years.  The ones who are telling him that they are executing perfectly, but are held back by some villain far away.</p>
<p>As stated, I have no problem PAYING for WSJ content.  I do have a problem being forced to use Bing, or the Journals home page to get to that content.</p>
<p>Some advice that Mr. Murdoch should not need to be given:  </p>
<p>If you can&#8217;t make your products take advantage of synergistic effects, dump the ones that are losing money.</p>
<p>If you can&#8217;t make your online content actually work as designed, figure out who to replace.</p>
<p>If you think your content is completely unique and irreplaceable, up your subscription price to $1000+ a year and go back to print.</p>
<p>Finally, if you think doing a deal with Microsoft represents salvation, you might check results from a few companies that have already gone down that path.</p>
<p>Good luck.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Will Murdoch&#8217;s Move on Google Get Traction? &#171; Netly: The Third Screen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:09:05 +0000</pubDate>
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