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	<title>Comments on: Making Fun of Prince Is Easy&#8211;Figuring Out How Talent Thrives in a Digital Age, Not So Much</title>
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		<title>By: Prince is right, kinda&#8230; at Waist Deep in the Media Swamp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Prince is right, kinda&#8230; at Waist Deep in the Media Swamp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Aug 2010 20:20:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] While many are bashing Prince for his comments about the Internet &#8216;being completely over,&#8217; Karen Swisher of  BoomTown has it right &#8211; &#8220;From music to movies to television, the biggest minds here still sound perplexed as to what will finally be the golden ticket to carry them through to the inevitable next era of digital distribution.﻿&#8221; (full post here). [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] While many are bashing Prince for his comments about the Internet &#8216;being completely over,&#8217; Karen Swisher of  BoomTown has it right &#8211; &#8220;From music to movies to television, the biggest minds here still sound perplexed as to what will finally be the golden ticket to carry them through to the inevitable next era of digital distribution.﻿&#8221; (full post here). [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Sedkowski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Sedkowski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Aug 2010 22:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The issue is not what Prince says or thinks. He is not relevant because of his current opinions but only because of his place in musical history.

What he says, however, is food for thought - if you think about it, lol. What he means is that all this digital interaction is irrelevant to the creative process. And in that he might be right. Maybe.

By far the bigger issue is the majors&#039; position in all this. Like it or not, the mainstream is still saturated with major productions. TV, radio, press. They&#039;re still guarding the money market with all they&#039;ve got - and whoever is saying that they&#039;re &quot;wrong&quot; in their methods is forgetting that they&#039;re not wrong from THEIR point of view. If they were wrong, that market would no longer be theirs. And it still is.

If you want to HELP them get MORE of that market back - then suggestions of what they should do or shouldn&#039;t might make more sense. If you want to bring them down - then either say nothing or feed them disinformation (assuming that they&#039;re listening). ;)

It&#039;s not clear from your post - or from the comments - which position you actually take.

The commenters are pretty much &quot;anti&quot; major, and the author of this post seems to be straddling the fence. All analysis here is thus somewhat tainted with this lack of clear gutsy position and perspective.

All that aside, I know my own position.

The majors would be just fine by me if they played fair. But they don&#039;t. For this reason, even though (as the good Samaritan that I am) I&#039;d like to help them, how could I? (assuming that I was able to do so) - that would be undermining the efforts of all genuine artists whose efforts they actively, brutally - and sometimes cunningly - destroy.

This said, here&#039;s some food for thought for them: if the bloggers can find solutions, if certain upstarts hit it out of the part... so could they.

But... they won&#039;t.

Why? Because they don&#039;t perceive the threat clearly enough. Sure their profits have eroded - but they&#039;re still making money and certainly have enough to eat. They&#039;re worried about tomorrow, but they also know that tomorrow their houses will still be theirs and it will take quite a few tomorrows before they&#039;re totally broke.

This false impression of &quot;we still have time to think of something&quot; is the reason why the majors will continue looking for solutions among yesterday&#039;s ideas. And will continue being predatory, exclusive and closed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The issue is not what Prince says or thinks. He is not relevant because of his current opinions but only because of his place in musical history.</p>
<p>What he says, however, is food for thought &#8211; if you think about it, lol. What he means is that all this digital interaction is irrelevant to the creative process. And in that he might be right. Maybe.</p>
<p>By far the bigger issue is the majors&#8217; position in all this. Like it or not, the mainstream is still saturated with major productions. TV, radio, press. They&#8217;re still guarding the money market with all they&#8217;ve got &#8211; and whoever is saying that they&#8217;re &#8220;wrong&#8221; in their methods is forgetting that they&#8217;re not wrong from THEIR point of view. If they were wrong, that market would no longer be theirs. And it still is.</p>
<p>If you want to HELP them get MORE of that market back &#8211; then suggestions of what they should do or shouldn&#8217;t might make more sense. If you want to bring them down &#8211; then either say nothing or feed them disinformation (assuming that they&#8217;re listening). ;)</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not clear from your post &#8211; or from the comments &#8211; which position you actually take.</p>
<p>The commenters are pretty much &#8220;anti&#8221; major, and the author of this post seems to be straddling the fence. All analysis here is thus somewhat tainted with this lack of clear gutsy position and perspective.</p>
<p>All that aside, I know my own position.</p>
<p>The majors would be just fine by me if they played fair. But they don&#8217;t. For this reason, even though (as the good Samaritan that I am) I&#8217;d like to help them, how could I? (assuming that I was able to do so) &#8211; that would be undermining the efforts of all genuine artists whose efforts they actively, brutally &#8211; and sometimes cunningly &#8211; destroy.</p>
<p>This said, here&#8217;s some food for thought for them: if the bloggers can find solutions, if certain upstarts hit it out of the part&#8230; so could they.</p>
<p>But&#8230; they won&#8217;t.</p>
<p>Why? Because they don&#8217;t perceive the threat clearly enough. Sure their profits have eroded &#8211; but they&#8217;re still making money and certainly have enough to eat. They&#8217;re worried about tomorrow, but they also know that tomorrow their houses will still be theirs and it will take quite a few tomorrows before they&#8217;re totally broke.</p>
<p>This false impression of &#8220;we still have time to think of something&#8221; is the reason why the majors will continue looking for solutions among yesterday&#8217;s ideas. And will continue being predatory, exclusive and closed.</p>
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		<title>By: Adrian22</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adrian22</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 13:22:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jason is quite right. As someone who represents talent, the way is open for any artist and/or their management who want to make music and a living today. The folks scratching their heads or complaining are those in the old guard who want their control back, or, in the case of Prince, someone who is out of touch.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;For a genuine talent, one with imagination and conviction, this is the best time to be a rock musician in some thirty-plus years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason is quite right. As someone who represents talent, the way is open for any artist and/or their management who want to make music and a living today. The folks scratching their heads or complaining are those in the old guard who want their control back, or, in the case of Prince, someone who is out of touch.</p>
<p>For a genuine talent, one with imagination and conviction, this is the best time to be a rock musician in some thirty-plus years.</p>
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		<title>By: Bookmarks for July 7th through July 9th</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bookmarks for July 7th through July 9th</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jul 2010 19:05:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Entertainment Industry Finds Digital Business Model Elusive &#124; Kara Swisher &#124; BoomTown &#124; AllThingsD &#8211; So, yes, the quote from Prince about the Internet being &#8220;completely over&#8221; made him sound like a Luddite idiot.          blog comments powered by Disqus  var disqus_url = &#039;http://www.newmediaphiladelphia.com/bookmarks-for-july-7th-through-july-9th/ &#039;; var disqus_container_id = &#039;disqus_thread&#039;; var facebookXdReceiverPath = &#039;http://www.newmediaphiladelphia.com/wp-content/plugins/disqus-comment-system/xd_receiver.htm&#039;;   var DsqLocal = { &#039;trackbacks&#039;: [ ], &#039;trackback_url&#039;: &#039;http://www.newmediaphiladelphia.com/bookmarks-for-july-7th-through-july-9th/trackback/&#039; };   (function() { var dsq = document.createElement(&#039;script&#039;); dsq.type = &#039;text/javascript&#039;; dsq.async = true; dsq.src = &quot;http://newmediaphiladelphia.disqus.com/disqus.js?v=2.0&amp;slug=bookmarks_for_july_7th_through_july_9th&amp;pname=wordpress&amp;pver=2.33&quot;; (document.getElementsByTagName(&#039;head&#039;)[0] &#124;&#124; document.getElementsByTagName(&#039;body&#039;)[0]).appendChild(dsq); })(); [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Full D8 Video: Hollywood&#8217;s Steve Levitan and Lloyd Braun &#124; Kara Swisher &#124; BoomTown &#124; AllThingsD</title>
		<link>http://kara.allthingsd.com/20100707/making-fun-of-prince-is-easy-figuring-out-how-talent-thrives-in-a-digital-age-not-so-much/#comment-38045</link>
		<dc:creator>Full D8 Video: Hollywood&#8217;s Steve Levitan and Lloyd Braun &#124; Kara Swisher &#124; BoomTown &#124; AllThingsD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jul 2010 23:41:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The major topic in their interview was where premium content is headed in the digital age and how the entertainment industry is coping. Or not. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The major topic in their interview was where premium content is headed in the digital age and how the entertainment industry is coping. Or not. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Lotito</title>
		<link>http://kara.allthingsd.com/20100707/making-fun-of-prince-is-easy-figuring-out-how-talent-thrives-in-a-digital-age-not-so-much/#comment-37952</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Lotito</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jul 2010 18:54:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;There&#039;s little out there as far as good business models go for online entertainment,&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That&#039;s a laugh.  There are working business models for online entertainment.  There have been working business models for online entertainment for years now.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The problem is trying to copy what was done before into the online world.  It doesn&#039;t work like that.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;Prince is completely right to ask for an advance from iTunes - it&#039;s simply an act of good faith on Apple&#039;s part to provide this.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;He has the right to ask, but he&#039;s also wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;There&#39;s little out there as far as good business models go for online entertainment,&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#39;s a laugh.  There are working business models for online entertainment.  There have been working business models for online entertainment for years now.</p>
<p>The problem is trying to copy what was done before into the online world.  It doesn&#39;t work like that.</p>
<p>&#8220;Prince is completely right to ask for an advance from iTunes &#8211; it&#39;s simply an act of good faith on Apple&#39;s part to provide this.&#8221;</p>
<p>He has the right to ask, but he&#39;s also wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Entertainment Industry Still Fights The Future At Every Turn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Entertainment Industry Still Fights The Future At Every Turn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jul 2010 12:41:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] usually quite the quality reporter for The WSJ&#8217;s All Things Digital blog, had a pretty surprising post this week lamenting a lack of business models for the entertainment industry in the digital age.  [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] usually quite the quality reporter for The WSJ&#8217;s All Things Digital blog, had a pretty surprising post this week lamenting a lack of business models for the entertainment industry in the digital age.  [...]</p>
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		<title>By: kaliphonia</title>
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		<dc:creator>kaliphonia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jul 2010 03:09:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The truth is, it costs money to pay talent to spend their time expressing that talent.  Prince is completely right to ask for an advance from iTunes - it&#039;s simply an act of good faith on Apple&#039;s part to provide this.  There&#039;s little out there as far as good business models go for online entertainment, and he&#039;s wary of it for good reason.  If Apple wants to sell his music, and they think it will sell, then they should pay for it up-front - especially when you figure in the additional costs of providing the content, signing the contracts, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The truth is, it costs money to pay talent to spend their time expressing that talent.  Prince is completely right to ask for an advance from iTunes &#8211; it&#39;s simply an act of good faith on Apple&#39;s part to provide this.  There&#39;s little out there as far as good business models go for online entertainment, and he&#39;s wary of it for good reason.  If Apple wants to sell his music, and they think it will sell, then they should pay for it up-front &#8211; especially when you figure in the additional costs of providing the content, signing the contracts, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Link Post for July 5th through July 7th</title>
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		<dc:creator>Link Post for July 5th through July 7th</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jul 2010 01:08:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Entertainment Industry Finds Digital Business Model Elusive &#124; Kara Swisher &#124; BoomTown &#124; AllThingsD &#8211; So, yes, the quote from Prince about the Internet being “completely over” made him sound like a Luddite idiot. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Entertainment Industry Finds Digital Business Model Elusive | Kara Swisher | BoomTown | AllThingsD &#8211; So, yes, the quote from Prince about the Internet being “completely over” made him sound like a Luddite idiot. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: David Jackson</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jul 2010 00:56:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The music industry never paid anybody but record labels and the 0.5% of artists who recoup. Of course they want to maintain the &#039;indentured servitude&#039; model. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Business models exist online, but they exist in a way that rewards the artists first and therefore... The music industry as we know it is on its way out. Let it die.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Movies are traded online like baseball cards and the last two years have been the biggest ever for box office.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The music industry never paid anybody but record labels and the 0.5% of artists who recoup. Of course they want to maintain the &#39;indentured servitude&#39; model. </p>
<p>Business models exist online, but they exist in a way that rewards the artists first and therefore&#8230; The music industry as we know it is on its way out. Let it die.</p>
<p>Movies are traded online like baseball cards and the last two years have been the biggest ever for box office.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Lotito</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Lotito</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 23:22:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Thus, instead of mocking that sentiment, perhaps it is time for tech leaders to figure out a way to keep talent from being dragged into the future without so much kicking and screaming&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Why? Lots of older talent, and a lot of new fresh talent have already made their way onto the internet and are making money.  It&#039;s not like tech leaders haven&#039;t been doing this for years.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Let&#039;s look at this another way.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Perhaps it is time for talent to listen to all the free advice they&#039;ve been given for more than a decade instead of still whining and screaming.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;continuing frustration with the lack of decent business models to replace the ones that have worked for so long and been so lucrative for the entertainment and media industry.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Disruptive technology works this way.  It always has.  You either adopt, or you fail.  Just because your business relies on a certain foundation doesn&#039;t mean that foundation is required to remain.  If anything, if your business fails, it&#039;s because the foundation wasn&#039;t as sound as you thought it was.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But the best part about the quote is it&#039;s selective.  Their has been, for more than a decade, proven, reliable business models in the entertainment industry.  If various insiders don&#039;t like the working business models, or fail with their own ideas, how is it the tech leaders responsibility to make them more money?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Thus, instead of mocking that sentiment, perhaps it is time for tech leaders to figure out a way to keep talent from being dragged into the future without so much kicking and screaming&#8221;</p>
<p>Why? Lots of older talent, and a lot of new fresh talent have already made their way onto the internet and are making money.  It&#39;s not like tech leaders haven&#39;t been doing this for years.</p>
<p>Let&#39;s look at this another way.</p>
<p>Perhaps it is time for talent to listen to all the free advice they&#39;ve been given for more than a decade instead of still whining and screaming.</p>
<p>&#8220;continuing frustration with the lack of decent business models to replace the ones that have worked for so long and been so lucrative for the entertainment and media industry.&#8221;</p>
<p>Disruptive technology works this way.  It always has.  You either adopt, or you fail.  Just because your business relies on a certain foundation doesn&#39;t mean that foundation is required to remain.  If anything, if your business fails, it&#39;s because the foundation wasn&#39;t as sound as you thought it was.</p>
<p>But the best part about the quote is it&#39;s selective.  Their has been, for more than a decade, proven, reliable business models in the entertainment industry.  If various insiders don&#39;t like the working business models, or fail with their own ideas, how is it the tech leaders responsibility to make them more money?</p>
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		<title>By: The Lack Of A &#8216;Golden Ticket&#8217; Business Model Doesn&#8217;t Mean You Give Up And Go Home &#124; It&#39;s... just a dot</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Lack Of A &#8216;Golden Ticket&#8217; Business Model Doesn&#8217;t Mean You Give Up And Go Home &#124; It&#39;s... just a dot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 16:35:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] nutty statements from Prince, Kara Swisher has decided to take the contrarian position to explain why Prince might not be so crazy after all. Her reasoning is that she&#039;s spent several days down in LA talking to entertainment industry execs [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] nutty statements from Prince, Kara Swisher has decided to take the contrarian position to explain why Prince might not be so crazy after all. Her reasoning is that she&#39;s spent several days down in LA talking to entertainment industry execs [...]</p>
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		<dc:creator>The Lack Of A &#8216;Golden Ticket&#8217; Business Model Doesn&#8217;t Mean You Give Up And Go Home &#124; PHP Hosts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 16:24:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] nutty statements from Prince, Kara Swisher has decided to take the contrarian position to explain why Prince might not be so crazy after all. Her reasoning is that she&#8217;s spent several days down in LA talking to entertainment industry [...]</description>
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