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		<title>All Is Forgiven: "It's a Clean Slate," Says Andreessen About Lawsuit-Mad Skype Co-Founders</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 19:28:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kara Swisher</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Silicon Valley legend and now VC Marc Andreessen was making the interview rounds after the settlement between the litigation-addled co-founders of Skype and all the various people they were suing was announced this morning.

In an interview with BoomTown, when asked about the aggressive legal tactics of  Niklas Zennström and Janus Friis that resulted in them finally seizing a stake in the Internet telephony giant by suing him and many other Silicon Valley players, Andreessen said:

"We did not take it personally. It's a clean sheet of paper."

Well, it is actually a torn, stained and very worn out piece of paper, but bygones!]]></description>
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<p>Silicon Valley legend and now VC Marc Andreessen was making the interview rounds after the settlement between the litigation-addled co-founders of Skype and all the various people they were suing <a href="http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/20091106/skype-soap-opera-finally-cancelled">was announced this morning</a>.</p>
<p>He has been tight-lipped until now, due to the morass of lawsuits.</p>
<p>But, as Andreessen told BoomTown in a phone interview about the aggressive legal tactics of Niklas Zennström and Janus Friis that resulted in them finally seizing a stake in the Internet telephony giant by suing him and many other Silicon Valley players:</p>
<p>&#8220;We did not take it personally. It&#8217;s a clean sheet of paper.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, it is actually a torn, stained and very worn out piece of paper, due to all the various machinations, but <em>bygones</em>!</p>
<p>Andreessen&#8211;who knows a thing or two about legal tussles, if you recall Netscape-Microsoft (MSFT)&#8211;said the real point is that it is time to focus on the business of Skype rather than fighting over who controls Skype.</p>
<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s really good to have everyone lined up and rowing in the same direction. We have to capitalize on the opportunity, because Skype is poised for a new wave of growth,&#8221; said Andreessen. &#8220;They have an amazing head of steam, because the logical way for voice and video communications to be conducted will be over the Web.&#8221;</p>
<p> Thus, Zennström and Friis now join the winning buyout group, Silver Lake Partners, Andreessen Horowitz and the Canada Pension Plan Investment Board, along with eBay, in owning Skype. </p>
<p><a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/files/2009/11/Heidi_Klum_Project_Runway.jpeg"><img src="http://kara.allthingsd.com/files/2009/11/Heidi_Klum_Project_Runway-224x300.jpg" alt="Heidi_Klum_Project_Runway" title="Heidi_Klum_Project_Runway" width="224" height="300" class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-20367" /></a></p>
<p>But Index Ventures, which was in, is&#8211;as Heidi Klum might say&#8211;<em>out</em>!</p>
<p>Under the terms of the agreement, Niklas Zennström and Janus Friis will take a 14 percent stake in the company they founded and then sold to eBay (EBAY), which will include an undisclosed investment by them.</p>
<p>I <a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/20091104/i-love-the-smell-of-settlement-in-the-morning-skype-founders-set-to-get-10-percent-option-to-buy-three-percent-more-and-two-board-seats/">reported yesterday that the total was 13 percent</a>&#8211;10 percent for the rights to key Skype technology held by the co-founders and the option to invest $83 million for three percent more.</p>
<p>In exchange, the pair will give Skype software essential to its operation and drop their various lawsuits against eBay and Skype&#8217;s buyers.</p>
<p>As for Zennström and Friis&#8217;s egregious use of the courts to grab their 14 percent stake in Skype, litigation they waged after losing their bid to buy Skype back from eBay, Andreessen was being very politic.</p>
<p>&#8220;We love working with aggressive founders and are in favor of founders being involved in their companies,&#8221; he said. &#8220;Great founders are not known for being shy and reserved. Look at Bill Gates. It&#8217;s not a question of personality, but of accomplishment.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/files/2009/02/296211136_2d8651f9be.jpg"><img src="http://kara.allthingsd.com/files/2009/02/296211136_2d8651f9be-199x300.jpg" alt="296211136_2d8651f9be" title="296211136_2d8651f9be" width="199" height="300" class="alignright size-medium wp-image-10058" /></a></p>
<p>Noting that he had not worked with the pair before, Andreessen (pictured here) said, &#8220;We have a lot of respect for them. We think they&#8217;re geniuses.&#8221;</p>
<p>But, I queried, would he have used such tactics?</p>
<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s not a book club, it&#8217;s a super-serious, high-stakes game,&#8221; said Andreessen. &#8220;I don&#8217;t know; I&#8217;ve not been in the situation they&#8217;re in. If your goal in life is to avoid drama, this is probably the wrong industry for you.&#8221;</p>
<p>Perhaps, but I told him that I doubted even a battle-hardened entrepreneur like Andreessen would use the courts in such a manner to achieve business goals. </p>
<p>To each his own, said Andreessen!</p>
<p>&#8220;One of our investing mottos is that we invest in strength, not lack of weakness,&#8221; he said. &#8220;The question is how big is the opportunity.&#8221;</p>
<p>And, apparently, it is big enough to overlook all the drama that has gone on. </p>
<p>Andreessen said he expects to be more involved at Skype&#8211;which, with his $50 million investment, is the <a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/20090612/andreessen-completes-raising-dough-for-his-300-million-venture-fund-let-the-investing-begin">biggest deal in his $300 million fund</a>&#8211;than other board members, noting different directors have different roles.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a big board of 23, as I had previously reported. Zennström and Friis are each getting a seat.</p>
<p>&#8220;We are going to be helpful,&#8221; Andreessen said about his fund&#8217;s role at Skype. &#8220;We&#8217;re a company picker, looking for those that have the greatest potential.&#8221;</p>
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<p>Andreessen, ever the diplomat, made sure to add that that also means <a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/20091103/volpi-and-index-ventures-out-of-skype-deal-the-lawsuit-happy-founder-twins-in/">doing business with Index</a>, the member of his Skype consortium that departed as Friis and Zennström (pictured here) entered, due to stark tensions between the two sides.</p>
<p>&#8220;I have a lot of respect for [Index partners Danny Rimer and Mike Volpi] and expect to work with them a lot in the future,&#8221; said Andreessen. &#8220;In fact, I am talking to them today about two other deals.&#8221;</p>
<p>In other words, in Silicon Valley, the big wheel just keeps on turning.</p>
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		<title>I Love the Smell of Settlement in the Morning: Skype Founders Set to Get 10 Percent, Option to Buy Three Percent More and Two Board Seats</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 07:38:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kara Swisher</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[According to several sources close to the situation, barring any unforeseen delay, a deal to settle the Skype imbroglio is likely to be announced around the time the markets open tomorrow.

While the massive agreement--which will settle a series of lawsuits waged by Skype's co-founders--is not yet officially signed, sources said lawyers are apparently putting the finishing touches on the paperwork.

Sources also said that those co-founders--Niklas Zennström and Janus Friis--will get 10 percent of Skype back for rights to key technology they control, an option to pay $83 million for another three percent of the Internet telephony service and two seats on the 23-member board.]]></description>
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<p>According to several sources close to the situation, barring any unforeseen delay, a deal to settle the Skype imbroglio is likely to be announced around the time the markets open tomorrow.</p>
<p>[<strong>UPDATE:</strong> The paperwork is taking longer than expected, so sit tight, said sources.]</p>
<p>While the massive agreement&#8211;which will settle three aggressive lawsuits lobbed by Skype co-founders Niklas Zennström and Janus Friis at a wide range of prominent Silicon Valley players&#8211;is not yet officially signed, sources said lawyers are apparently putting the finishing touches on the paperwork and have signature papers completed by both sides to be able to wrap it up quickly.</p>
<p>So, while nothing is ever over until it is over, it looks like it is over.</p>
<p>Sources also said that as part of the deal to end the legal madness, Zennström and Friis will get 10 percent of Skype back for rights to key software technology they control, an option to pay $83 million for another three percent of the Internet telephony service and two seats on the 23-member board.</p>
<p>Also, BoomTown has learned that a partridge in a pear tree will be thrown in to guarantee a lasting peace.</p>
<p>All kidding aside, the settlement is proof that squeaky wheels&#8211;especially if they hire the combative litigators of Skadden Arps&#8211;get the grease.</p>
<p>As <a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/20091103/volpi-and-index-ventures-out-of-skype-deal-the-lawsuit-happy-founder-twins-in/">has been previously reported</a>, one of the investors in the consortium that won the bidding to buy 65 percent of Skype from eBay (EBAY)&#8211;which itself had bought it in 2005 from Zennström and Friis&#8211;has withdrawn its investment and involvement as part of the settlement.</p>
<p>That would be London-based Index Ventures, which was a smaller player in the group with&#8211;ironically&#8211;a three percent stake.</p>
<p>Nonetheless, Index had an outsized fight going on with Zennström and Friis.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s due to their ire, aimed at Index&#8217;s Mike Volpi, who was CEO of Joost, the failed online video site the pair founded.</p>
<p>After Zennström and Friis lost their own bid to buy back Skype, they <a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/20091014/when-entrepreneurs-attack-all-10-new-skype-lawsuit-filings/">quickly sued Index and Volpi</a> via tech companies they control, Joltid and Joost, in Delaware.</p>
<p>The pair alleged that Volpi <a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/20091014/exclusive-skype-founders-keep-on-punching-file-injunction-against-volpi-and-index/">used confidential information gleaned from his time as Joost CEO</a> to unfairly help the winning consortium acquire Skype.</p>
<p>The lawsuit was particularly vindictive, using embarrassing emails and making pointed accusations about Volpi plotting all kinds of nefarious schemes, like Lady Macbeth on steroids, on his way out of Joost.</p>
<p>I am not sure what law one can break for wanting to leave a job or how much damage one can do to an already failing business, but that did not stop Zennström and Friis from trying to pin some specious accusations on Volpi.</p>
<p>(I wouldn&#8217;t have been surprised if they had accused Volpi of being responsible for Balloon Boy.)</p>
<p>But such legal attacks obviously worked, making Index loath to stay in an economically less attractive deal with lessened influence over Skype.</p>
<p>And eBay and the other investors obviously wanted closure, so they could get on with the work of turbocharging Skype.</p>
<p>The fighting between Index and the Skype founders was just one part of the legal morass.</p>
<p>Zennström and Friis had already been in a battle over software licensing issues with eBay in London courts.</p>
<p>They <a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/20091014/exclusive-skype-founders-keep-on-punching-file-injunction-against-volpi-and-index/">also filed suit again</a> in California against Skype and eBay for copyright violations.</p>
<p>For good measure, the pair added the winning buyout group, including Index, Silver Lake Partners, Andreessen Horowitz and the Canada Pension Plan Investment Board, in that lawsuit.</p>
<p>(In legalese&#8211;and in honor of the Yankees winning the World Series tonight&#8211;such massive lawsuit-making is called covering all your bases!)</p>
<p>Of course, <a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/20091014/when-entrepreneurs-attack-all-10-new-skype-lawsuit-filings/">Volpi and Index fired back in court filings </a> and both sides <a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/20091015/dueling-skype-sides-hire-big-communications-guns/">armed themselves with powerful PR guns</a>.</p>
<p>Presumably, those same mouthpieces&#8211;who have been slagging the other side for weeks&#8211;will now be at the ready with honeyed tales of reconciliation tomorrow. </p>
<p>Call me cynical, but we&#8217;ll see how long <em>that</em> lasts.</p>
<p>&#8220;[Zennström and Friis] got what they wanted by using Volpi as a pawn and the lawsuits as a club,&#8221; said one person close to the situation. &#8220;Everyone is moving on, but not everyone is going to forget what they did to get what they wanted.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Volpi and Index Ventures Out of Skype Deal, the Lawsuit-Happy Founder Twins In</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 02:58:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kara Swisher</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[According to sources close to the situation, Index Ventures and Michelangelo Volpi are out of the deal to buy Skype--and their lawsuit-loving nemeses, the founders of the Internet telephony service, are in.

More details to come, but it's sure proof that the legal system, such as it was used, works.]]></description>
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<p>According to sources close to the situation, Index Ventures and Michelangelo Volpi are out of the deal to buy Skype&#8211;and their lawsuit-loving nemeses, the founders of the Internet telephony service, are in.</p>
<p>Skype founders Niklas Zennström and Janus Friis <a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/20091014/when-entrepreneurs-attack-all-10-new-skype-lawsuit-filings/">had sued Index and partner Michelangelo Volpi</a> via tech companies they control, Joltid and Joost.</p>
<p>The pair had already been in a legal battle over software licensing issues with eBay (EBAY), the company that had sold Skype to in 2005.</p>
<p>They then accused Index and Volpi, employing a reputation-bashing style, of using confidential information as part of a consortium bid to acquire a large chunk of Skype.</p>
<p>Volpi had been Joost&#8217;s CEO.</p>
<p><a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/20091014/when-entrepreneurs-attack-all-10-new-skype-lawsuit-filings/">Volpi and Index fired back in court filings </a> and both sides <a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/20091015/dueling-skype-sides-hire-big-communications-guns/">armed themselves with powerful PR guns</a>.</p>
<p>Ironically, Index was only a small part of the group that won the deal to acquire Skype from eBay recently.</p>
<p>News of the serious settlement talks was <a href="http://gigaom.com/2009/11/01/skype-vs-founders-settlement/">reported earlier this week by GigaOm&#8217;s Om Malik</a>.</p>
<p>The New York Times&#8217;s Brad Stone also <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/04/technology/companies/04skype.html?partner=rss&#038;emc=rss">added significantly to the story about the settlement today</a>, noting the Skype founders would be getting a stake and that Index &#8220;is most likely withdrawing from the deal.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, most likely now means certainly for Index, sources told me, and the London-based venture firm that bid for Skype has to bid that deal goodbye.</p>
<p>More details to come, but it&#8217;s sure <a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/20090918/parsing-the-legal-tantrums-of-zennstrom-and-friis/">proof that the legal system</a>, such as it was used, works.</p>
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		<title>Volpi and Index Smack Back at Skype Founders With Motion to Dismiss (Plus Filings!)</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 22:49:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kara Swisher</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The legal high jinks in the contentious battle over the fate of Skype got worse this afternoon, as former Joost CEO Michelangelo Volpi and Index Ventures filed a motion to dismiss a lawsuit brought by the founders of Skype--Niklas Zennström and Janus Friis, via Joost and Joltid--against them.

It's yet another chess move among a group of well-known tech players, who used to work together closely and are now at odds.]]></description>
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<p>The legal high jinks in the contentious battle over the fate of Skype got worse this afternoon, as former Joost CEO Michelangelo Volpi and Index Ventures filed a motion to dismiss a lawsuit brought by the founders of Skype&#8211;Niklas Zennström and Janus Friis, via Joost and Joltid&#8211;against them.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s yet another chess move among a group of well-known tech players, who used to work together closely and are now at odds.</p>
<p>In a filing in the U.S. District Court in Delaware, Volpi and the London-based Index&#8211;where Volpi now works&#8211;noted, referring to a bid Zennström and Friis made to regain control of Skype, which they sold to eBay (EBAY) years ago:</p>
<p>&#8220;Instead of accepting the fact that their bid failed in the marketplace, Friis and Zennström are now using inflammatory and highly-charged litigation&#8211;through companies that have no relationship to the Skype purchase&#8211;to try to achieve their personal business goals.&#8221;</p>
<p>A spokesman for Joost and Joltid did not agree with Volpi&#8217;s assessment:</p>
<p>&#8220;Mr. Volpi’s latest motion appears to have been prepared prior to Defendants receiving Plaintiffs&#8217; Motion for Preliminary Injunction, which is filled with evidence supporting Plaintiffs&#8217; claims. In light of this strong showing of substantive evidence, much of it from Mr. Volpi&#8217;s own correspondence, there is no basis for Mr. Volpi&#8217;s assertion that Plaintiffs have somehow failed to state a claim upon which relief can be granted.&#8221;</p>
<p>Index was a small player within a group that won Skype, putting in $75 million, in a $2 billion deal that is set to close in the next few weeks.</p>
<p>The <a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/20091015/dueling-skype-sides-hire-big-communications-guns/">motion to dismiss the filing is not surprising</a> given that Joost and Joltid filed a motion for preliminary injunction against Volpi and Index yesterday.</p>
<p>They are asking that he not use knowledge or confidential information he got at the video start-up in current dealings with Skype.</p>
<p>To complicate things further, the innovative and entrepreneurial pair also own a company called Joltid, which has licensed key technology for Skype to eBay.</p>
<p>Joltid and eBay have already been fighting in court over that agreement, bickering back and forth about whether eBay violated the terms of that deal or not.</p>
<p>Via Joltid, Zennström and Friis also filed suit again against Skype and its owner, eBay, for copyright violations in the U.S.</p>
<p>For good measure, they added the winning buyout group, including Index, Silver Lake Partners, Andreessen Horowitz and the Canada Pension Plan Investment Board.</p>
<p>And both Joltid and Joost have also sued Volpi personally, as well as Index, making serious allegations about his behavior as Joost CEO.</p>
<p>Here are several key legal filings to peruse, for all you &#8220;Law &#038; Order&#8221; types:</p>
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		<title>Dueling Skype Sides Hire Big Communications Guns</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 17:56:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kara Swisher</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Perhaps the sides in the ever-escalating war over the Skype deal will work out their differences and settle--which is what should and probably will eventually happen after everyone realizes how stupid all this noisy legal wrangling over the Internet telephony giant is.

But that day is decidedly not today, given a pair of recent big-gun PR hires by parties involved.]]></description>
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<p>Perhaps the sides in the ever-escalating war over the Skype deal will work out their differences and settle&#8211;which is what should and probably will eventually happen after everyone realizes how stupid all this noisy legal wrangling over the Internet telephony giant is.</p>
<p>But that day is decidedly not today, given a pair of recent PR hires by parties involved.</p>
<p>The founders of Skype, via the two tech companies they control, Joost and Joltid, have hired <a href="http://www.sitrick.com/home.html">Sitrick &#038; Company</a>, headquartered in Los Angeles, while Index Ventures has tapped <a href="http://joelefrank.com/">Joele Frank, Wilkinson Brimmer Katcher</a>, based in New York.</p>
<p>Both strategic communications and public relations firms are well known for employing some very sharp elbows and extremely tough talk when it is time for some creative corporate crisis management.</p>
<p>And both are familiar with tech issues, having worked on contentious issues related to companies such as Microsoft (MSFT), Yahoo (YHOO), CBS (CBS) online unit CNET, and others.</p>
<p>And there is plenty of bad blood to work with here.</p>
<p>Yesterday, in yet another legal volley, <a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/20091014/exclusive-skype-founders-keep-on-punching-file-injunction-against-volpi-and-index/">Joost and Joltid filed a motion for preliminary injunction</a> against former Joost CEO Michelangelo Volpi and Index Ventures, where Volpi now works as a partner.</p>
<p>They are asking that he not use knowledge or confidential information he got at the video start-up in current dealings with Skype.</p>
<p>Legal attacks have become the negotiating tool of choice from the founders of Skype, Niklas Zennström and Janus Friis, who were on the losing side of the $2 billion deal to buy the Internet telephony giant from eBay (EBAY).</p>
<p>Volpi is now a partner at London-based Index, which was one of the smaller players on the winning side of the bid, putting up $75 million.</p>
<p>To complicate things further, the innovative and entrepreneurial pair also own a company called Joltid, which has licensed key technology for Skype to eBay.</p>
<p>Joltid and eBay have already been fighting in court over that agreement, bickering back and forth about whether eBay violated the terms of that deal or not.</p>
<p>Via Joltid, Zennström and Friis also filed suit again against Skype and its owner, eBay, for copyright violations in the U.S.</p>
<p>For good measure, they added the winning buyout group, including Index, Silver Lake Partners, Andreessen Horowitz and the Canada Pension Plan Investment Board.</p>
<p>And both Joltid and Joost have also sued Volpi personally, as well as Index, making serious allegations about his behavior as Joost CEO.</p>
<p>This kind of mud-slinging could get even worse with the hiring of big PR firms.</p>
<p>Along with Frank and Sitrick, by the way, Silver Lake&#8211;which is the big player on the winning side&#8211;has hired Edelman&#8217;s crisis and issues management team.</p>
<p>Interestingly, several sources said, the various players have also been engaged in settlement talks, even as the lawsuits have piled up.</p>
<p>Coming to some agreement is clearly the best outcome, although it does not appear that the spate of lawsuits has yet derailed the eBay deal with the Silver Lake-led group, which could even close in the next several weeks.</p>
<p>&#8220;Everyone should be thinking ahead of the headlights,&#8221; said one source. &#8220;But right now, it seems to be all about emotions.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Fox Slaps Back (Legally) at Redbox</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 23:03:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In the ongoing fight between Redbox--which rents DVDs from kiosks for $1--and major Hollywood studios, 20th Century Fox Home Entertainment just filed a brief to dismiss Redbox's lawsuit against it.

The fascinating legal battle between Redbox and the studios centers around the issues of steep discounting, windowing and the price for premium content.]]></description>
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<p>In the ongoing fight between Redbox&#8211;which rents DVDs from kiosks for $1&#8211;and major Hollywood studios, 20th Century Fox Home Entertainment just filed a brief to dismiss Redbox&#8217;s lawsuit against it.</p>
<p>Said Fox in a statement:</p>
<p>&#8220;Redbox&#8217;s legal claims are fatally flawed. Fox&#8217;s filing today makes clear that, in the end, the case is all about Redbox&#8217;s refusal to make a business deal on general terms similar to those paid by others in this industry. Instead, Redbox has insisted that Fox sell DVDs to them through distributors, on the date they demand, at the price they want to pay. Unable to get the terms it wanted at the bargaining table, Redbox instead decided to file this meritless lawsuit.&#8221;</p>
<p>In a statement, Redbox president Mitch Lowe responded to the filing by stating that Fox was anti-consumer.</p>
<p>&#8220;Twentieth Century Fox continues its pursuit to prohibit consumer access to new release DVDs at affordable prices&#8230;Redbox remains steadfast in our commitment to protecting consumers&#8217; rights and to providing our customers the DVDs they want, where they want and at the low price they want.&#8221;</p>
<p>In two briefs filed this afternoon, refuting Redbox&#8217;s allegations, Fox is asserting that it has not refused to provide DVDs to the outfit and has tried to negotiate a deal. </p>
<p>Under contention between the two are the price and terms of when DVDs of hit movies can be released to Redbox.</p>
<p>Redbox has asserted that Fox is violating antitrust laws and copyright misuse in not selling DVDs to the company.</p>
<p>Fox denied that claim in the brief, noting that Redbox simply did not want to pay up in order to get certain DVDs on the &#8220;street date,&#8221; as do other retailers.</p>
<p>Fox is one of three studios that have become embroiled in lawsuits with Redbox.</p>
<p>Located in Oakbrook Terrace, Ill., and is wholly owned by Bellevue, Wash.-based Coinstar (CSTR), Redbox is seeing strong rental growth due to its $1-a-night price for first-run movies, which the company distributes via its 15,000 freestanding machines in supermarkets and convenience stores, as well as in big chains like McDonald&#8217;s (MCD), Wal-Mart (WMT) and Walgreens (WAG).</p>
<p>Its <a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/20090831/louie-swisher-hearts-redbox-but-hollywood-not-so-much">fascinating legal battle with the studios</a> centers around the issues of steep discounting, release windowing and the price for premium content.</p>
<p>Redbox recently sued Warner Home Video, owned by Time Warner (TWX), for denying it the opportunity to buy DVDs without being required to wait a month or more to rent them out.</p>
<p>It has previously gone after NBC Universal’s Universal Studios Home Entertainment, owned by GE (GE) and Fox, a unit of News Corp. (NWS), for similar release restrictions.</p>
<p>The trio&#8217;s movies make up 40 percent of the DVD rental market.</p>
<p>In its brief today, Fox noted that it was willing to sell to Redbox directly, rather than via wholesalers, but that talks collapsed over pricing issues. </p>
<p>And while some studios are holding fast to fighting price declines represented by consumer-friendly, idiot-proof tech solutions like Redbox, others are not.</p>
<p>Redbox has inked deals with Sony (SNE); Lions Gate (LGF); Paramount, a unit of Viacom (VIA); and also gets movies from Walt Disney (DIS).</p>
<p>Here are two briefs filed by Fox in U.S. District Court in Delaware, the first, a motion to dismiss the lawsuit by Redbox, and the second to transfer venue to California:</p>
<p><a title="View FINAL Opening Brief in Support of Fox's Motion to Dismiss on Scribd" href="http://www.scribd.com/doc/20503782/FINAL-Opening-Brief-in-Support-of-Foxs-Motion-to-Dismiss" style="margin: 12px auto 6px auto; font-family: Helvetica,Arial,Sans-serif; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 14px; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; -x-system-font: none; display: block; text-decoration: underline;">FINAL Opening Brief in Support of Fox&#8217;s Motion to Dismiss</a> <object codebase="http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=9,0,0,0" id="doc_688504934581107" name="doc_688504934581107" classid="clsid:d27cdb6e-ae6d-11cf-96b8-444553540000" align="middle"	height="500" width="100%" ><param name="movie"	value="http://d1.scribdassets.com/ScribdViewer.swf?document_id=20503782&#038;access_key=key-202ywy2l524esbxyt4yu&#038;page=1&#038;version=1&#038;viewMode="><param name="quality" value="high"><param name="play" value="true"><param name="loop" value="true"><param name="scale" value="showall"><param name="wmode" value="opaque"><param name="devicefont" value="false"><param name="bgcolor" value="#ffffff"><param name="menu" value="true"><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"><param name="allowScriptAccess" value="always"><param name="salign" value=""><embed src="http://d1.scribdassets.com/ScribdViewer.swf?document_id=20503782&#038;access_key=key-202ywy2l524esbxyt4yu&#038;page=1&#038;version=1&#038;viewMode=" quality="high" pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer" play="true" loop="true" scale="showall" wmode="opaque" devicefont="false" bgcolor="#ffffff" name="doc_688504934581107_object" menu="true" allowfullscreen="true" allowscriptaccess="always" salign="" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" align="middle"  height="500" width="100%"></embed></object>	</p>
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<p>(Full disclosure: Fox is owned by News Corp., which also owns Dow Jones, owner of this site.)</p>
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		<title>Scribd CEO Trip Adler Speaks!</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 12:01:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kara Swisher</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yesterday, BoomTown checked in with Docstoc CEO Jason Nazar about the document sharing start-up.

Today, it's Trip Adler, CEO of its much larger rival, Scribd. 

Launched in early 2007, the San Francisco-based online publishing company allows customers to share a wider range of documents, including books and manuscripts. It now claims to have 10 million documents.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/files/2009/09/scribd_logo.jpg"><img src="http://kara.allthingsd.com/files/2009/09/scribd_logo.jpg" alt="scribd_logo" title="scribd_logo" width="175" height="175" class="alignright size-full wp-image-18938" /></a></p>
<p>Yesterday, BoomTown checked in with <a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/20090928/docstoc-ceo-jason-nazar-speaks/">Docstoc CEO Jason Nazar</a> about the document sharing start-up.</p>
<p>Today, it&#8217;s Trip Adler, CEO of its much larger rival, Scribd. </p>
<p>Launched in early 2007, the San Francisco-based online publishing company allows customers to share a wider range of documents, including books and manuscripts. It now claims to have 10 million documents uploaded.</p>
<p>Recently, some of those landed Scribd in a bit of hot water, with a lawsuit filed by an author alleging copyright violations. The lawsuit claimed that the start-up &#8220;built a technology that&#8217;s broken barriers to copyright infringement on a global scale.&#8221;</p>
<p>No surprise, Scribd denied the allegations. </p>
<p>&#8220;Scribd does not want unauthorized content on our site,&#8221; the company said. &#8220;We built the industry&#8217;s leading (filtering) technology to prevent the upload of unauthorized documents. This is one of the reasons why best-selling authors and many of the world&#8217;s largest publishers have chosen to put their works on Scribd.&#8221;</p>
<p>That includes a deal this summer with Simon &#038; Schuster, a division of CBS (CBS), to sell digital copies of its books, offering publishers more control over pricing and how works are distributed.</p>
<p>Such efforts to become a kind of YouTube for text is certainly part of the plan for Scribd, which has garnered about $13 million in funding, including from Redpoint Ventures. </p>
<p>Of course, YouTube owner Google (GOOG) also has designs in the arena&#8211;although it has become embroiled in loud legal battles over the issue with publishers. And so does Kindle-creator Amazon (AMZN), of course.</p>
<p>Those are mighty rivals, along with the need to police itself.</p>
<p>Scribd&#8217;s traffic has declined from about 60 million unique monthly visitors to half that recently as it has tried to get a good handle on piracy and other reasons. That traffic has since recovered a bit to about 40 million.</p>
<p>The company has also been adding features, including making the site more social, in order to goose online document and book sales and advertising.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the video interview with Adler about the business:</p>
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		<title>Parsing the Legal Tantrums of Zennström and Friis</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 23:30:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kara Swisher</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is it just me or is it completely ironic that a pair of European entrepreneurs kept out of the United States due to tantrum lawsuits from the music industry are stamping their own legal feet like two ill-tempered toddlers of late?

That would be Niklas Zennström and Janus Friis, who today filed yet another lawsuit in their seemingly never-ending quest to win in court what they couldn't in business dealmaking.]]></description>
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<p>Is it just me or is it completely ironic that a pair of European entrepreneurs kept out of the United States due to tantrum lawsuits from the music industry are stamping their own legal feet like two ill-tempered toddlers of late?</p>
<p>That would be Niklas Zennström and Janus Friis, who today filed yet another lawsuit in their seemingly never-ending quest to win in court what they couldn&#8217;t in business dealmaking. </p>
<p>Today, via a new lawsuit, they are following through on their recent attempt to <a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/20090914/joost-a-little-misunderstanding-between-friends-not-really-but-please-enjoy-the-video-from-better-days">smear former Joost CEO Michelangelo Volpi</a>.</p>
<p>Zennström and Friis co-founded Joost, you see, and last week were part of dumping him as a director and as its chairman, a job Volpi had retained when he left his top job at Joost to join Index Ventures in July.</p>
<p>Not satisfied with that, Joost also said then in an astonishing statement: &#8220;The company and its board of directors is conducting an investigation into Mr. Volpi’s actions during his tenure as CEO and as chairman.&#8221;</p>
<p>Of course, it is all part of the pair being on the very-sore-losing side of the $2 billion deal to buy Skype from eBay (EBAY).</p>
<p>Zennström and Friis got very rich selling the Internet telephony service to eBay in 2005.</p>
<p>This year, they turned around and tried to buy it back, hooking up with a group of private-equity investors.</p>
<p>Both Google (GOOG) and Microsoft (MSFT) also considered bids, and dropped out for various reasons.</p>
<p>And so did Volpi, in one of his first deals at Index&#8211;and the London-based venture firm was one of the smaller players on the winning side of the deal to buy Skype, putting up $75 million.</p>
<p>To complicate things further, Zennström and Friis also own a company called Joltid, which has licensed key technology for Skype to eBay.</p>
<p>Joltid and eBay have already been fighting in a British court over that agreement, bickering back and forth about whether eBay violated the terms of that deal or not.</p>
<p>Earlier this week, via Joltid, Zennström and Friis also filed suit again against Skype and its owner, eBay, for copyright violations in the U.S.</p>
<p>For good measure, they also added the winning buyout group, including Silver Lake Partners, Index, Andreessen Horowitz and the Canada Pension Plan Investment Board.</p>
<p>Did I forget to mention that lawsuit-happy Zennström and Friis also sued the investment banker who represented them in the original Skype sale?</p>
<p>So, it comes as no shock that both Joltid and Joost&#8211;aka Zennström and Friis&#8211;announced yesterday that they are suing Volpi personally, as well as Index again.</p>
<p>They allege tech skullduggery on Volpi&#8217;s part, in which he used confidential information he learned at Joost to thwart Joltid.</p>
<p>Evidence and proof&#8211;on first blush&#8211;seem to have little to do with this and ire at losing a deal and trying to gain leverage for a settlement seem to be the true game.</p>
<p>And what their next legal move might be is anybody&#8217;s guess.</p>
<p>But you get the idea here, don&#8217;t you? </p>
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		<title>Louie Swisher Hearts Redbox&#8211;But Hollywood Not So Much</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 22:10:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kara Swisher</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you want to get Hollywood movie studio types irked, mention Google. And if you want them steamed, bringing up Netflix will usually work.

But if you want to see the tops of their heads blow off, Redbox is just the ticket.

Except not to their movies, it seems, if the major movie studio execs have their way in an ever-growing legal battle with the DVD-rental kiosk company.

A typical consumer named Louie Swisher, though, begs to differ.]]></description>
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<p>If you want to get Hollywood movie studio types irked, mention Google (GOOG). And if you want them steamed, bringing up Netflix (NFLX) will usually work.</p>
<p>But if you want to see the tops of their heads blow off, <a href="http://www.redbox.com/">Redbox</a> is just the ticket.</p>
<p>Except not to their movies, it seems, if the major movie studio execs have their way in an ever-growing legal battle with the DVD-rental kiosk company.</p>
<p>Three of them have become embroiled in lawsuits with Redbox, even as the DVD market contracts.</p>
<p>Well, not for Redbox&#8211;which is located in Oakbrook Terrace, Ill., and is wholly owned by Bellevue, Wash.-based Coinstar (CSTR). </p>
<p>It is seeing strong rental growth due to its $1-a-night price for first-run movies, which the company distributes via its 15,000 freestanding machines in supermarkets and convenience stores, as well as in big chains like McDonald&#8217;s (MCD), Wal-Mart (WMT) and Walgreens (WAG).</p>
<p>Redbox is arguing that once it buys DVDs from the studios through wholesalers, it can charge any price it wants.</p>
<p>Studios beg to differ, claiming that bargain-basement pricing is hurting the market and that Redbox should not get the goods until after the first month of release of movies into the DVD market.</p>
<p>&#8220;These guys are simply grossly undervaluing our content,&#8221; said one studio source, in what is a typical sentiment. &#8220;We get the windowing model is changing, but we can&#8217;t just give these guys our stuff at a low, low price to essentially enable them to give it away&#8230;and that&#8217;s exactly what they wanted us to do.&#8221; </p>
<p>Thus, it&#8217;s a perfect set-up for legal high jinks about the issues of steep discounting, windowing and the price for premium content.</p>
<p>Redbox recently sued Warner Home Video, owned by Time Warner (TWX), for denying it the opportunity to buy DVDs without being required to wait a month or more to rent them out.</p>
<p>It has previously gone after NBC Universal&#8217;s Universal Studios Home Entertainment, owned by GE (GE) and 20th Century Fox, a unit of News Corp. (NWS), for similar release restrictions.</p>
<p>And while some studios are holding fast to fighting price declines represented by consumer-friendly, idiot-proof tech solutions like Redbox, others are not.</p>
<p>Redbox has inked deals with Sony (SNE), Lions Gate (LGF), Paramount, a unit of Viacom (VIA),  and also gets movies from Disney (DIS).</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a fascinating case to watch&#8211;yet another wrinkle in the what-is-content-really-worth question that has been plaguing all traditional media.</p>
<p>Unfortunately for those companies, the kids seem to love it, as you will see from this video I did while renting movies at our local Safeway (SWY) with my seven-year-old son, Louie, at a small competitor to Redbox with about 1,400 outlets called <a href="http://www.dvdplay.com/">DVDPlay</a>.</p>
<p>We use both, but Louie&#8211;like a lot of consumers&#8211;is most definitely a fan of the Redbox method.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the video:</p>
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		<title>The Shocking Spot Runner Lawsuit Vs. the BoomTown Video of CEO Nick Grouf in Happier Days</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 17:33:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kara Swisher</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[As everyone knows by this morning, Spot Runner--the heavily-funded and once-hyped online-offline advertising agency--is being sued by one of its more prominent investors. 

Ad behemoth WPP essentially paints an ugly picture of Spot Runner as the Bernie Madoff of Web 2.0.

It is alleging in a lawsuit that Spot Runner, in a "pump and dump" scheme, sold over $54 million in "secondary" shares to line its own pockets without telling WPP much, all while losing money, running out of funding and not building a sustainable business.

Here's the background and also an interview BoomTown did with CEO and co-founder Nick Grouf in better days.]]></description>
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<p>As everyone knows by this morning, Spot Runner&#8211;the heavily-funded and once-hyped online-offline advertising agency&#8211;<a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124017966286632847.html">is being sued by one of its more prominent investors</a>. </p>
<p>Ad behemoth WPP, which is making a variety of harsh allegations in a lawsuit filed about two weeks ago, is saying it is still not too big to be snookered by the start-up&#8217;s top execs and some of its other investors.</p>
<p>WPP (WPPGY), which has been quite active in making digital ad investments over the last several years, is alleging that Spot Runner sold over $54 million in &#8220;secondary&#8221; shares to line its own pockets without telling WPP much, all while losing money, running out of funding and not building a sustainable business.</p>
<p>The lawsuit essentially paints an ugly picture of Spot Runner as the Bernie Madoff of Web 2.0.</p>
<p>In its strongest phrasing, the lawsuit alleges:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Rather than working to make Spot Runner a successful and profitable venture, they perpetuated a &#8216;pump-and dump&#8217; scheme in which they aggressively promoted the Company to new investors (often by promoting that WPP was an investor in and supported of the Company) and then sold new investors large quantities of their own secondary shares at ever-increasing valuations. Such secondary sales were accomplished surreptitiously and without disclosures to Investors required by the controlling Investor agreements or federal and state securities laws.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Those named in the suit include: Spot Runner CEO and co-founder Nick Grouf, CTO and co-founder David Waxman, venture investors Battery Ventures and Index Ventures, and board members, such as former AOL exec Robert Pittman.</p>
<p>This is obviously a bad turn of events for Spot Runner, which is currently reeling from the advertising downturn too.</p>
<p>Before that, it had gotten over <a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/20080506/another-web-20-superfunding-spot-runner-gets-51-million-more/">$100 million in funding from a strong slate of investing luminaries</a>.</p>
<p>Investors included international media giants Daily Mail and General Trust and Grupo Televisa, investment company Legg Mason Capital Management (LM) and luxury conglomerate Groupe Arnault/LVMH.</p>
<p>Spot Runner’s previous investors are Allen &#038; Company, Battery Ventures, Comerica Bank (CMA), Lachlan Murdoch, Vivi Nevo, Capital Research and Management, CBS (CBS), Index Ventures, Interpublic Group (IPG), Tudor Investment Corporation and WPP.</p>
<p>All that money had, when times were good, given Spot Runner an eye-popping valuation upward of $500 million.</p>
<p><a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/files/2008/07/spotrunner.jpg"><img src="http://kara.allthingsd.com/files/2008/07/spotrunner-300x120.jpg" alt="" title="spotrunner" width="250" height="75" class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-2467" /></a></p>
<p>And that&#8217;s the very kind of bubble economics that apparently allowed some at the company to make those lucrative secondary sales the lawsuit alleges, with lots of demand to get in to the latest hot start-up.</p>
<p>To be clear, such sales are not uncommon at tech start-ups in Silicon Valley, often done to allow entrepreneurs to take some money off the table, especially if there is no clear path to liquidation.</p>
<p>But the scope of the sales alleged is quite unusual, with Grouf getting half the proceeds of the transactions, which were made from early 2006 to early 2008.</p>
<p>That said, WPP&#8211;which is seeking $11.5 million in damages, as well as legal fees, after investing $10 million&#8211;leaves itself open to its own tsk-tsking, since it finally got to participate some in the sales too, dumping $900,000 worth  of shares in the last one.</p>
<p>That makes it seem like WPP is just miffed that it did not get enough while the getting was good, which is underscored by the small amount of money being asked for in the lawsuit, in comparison to the large and loud accusations.</p>
<p>Worse still, perhaps, for everyone involved, is the suit&#8217;s revelation that Spot Runner was not the revenue geyser it had touted itself as being&#8211;which should not come as a huge shock to anyone who has followed any Web 2.0 company in an even cursory way.</p>
<p>Very few, including the star, Facebook, <em>make money</em>, as BoomTown and others have pointed out a lot to little interest.</p>
<p>The lawsuit says the profit-free Spot Runner had $5 million in revenue in 2007 and $9 million in 2008. It alleges too that the company only has $20 million left of its funding and is spending $35 million to $45 million a year.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s because Spot Runner was trying to create a new online ad system, which was essentially a do-it-yourself model that tries to iron out inefficiencies in the buying and selling of advertising and bridge the gap between the traditional and online ad markets. It has since changed its strategy and is working on other products, such as a <a href="http://www.adweek.com/aw/content_display/news/media/e3i4e22c70790e72ba2ec37b4ca6502e88d">digital-media buying platform called Project Malibu</a>. </p>
<p>Other than Spot Runner&#8217;s statement that it would defend itself vigorously, there were mostly no comments all around.</p>
<p>“This situation is unfortunate; we had hoped that we would have had a long relationship with WPP.  We believe the claims are without merit and we will vigorously defend against them, including taking all necessary legal action to protect Spot Runner’s reputation,&#8221; said a Spot Runner spokeswoman in a statement.</p>
<p>But one source close to the Spot Runner side, while not addressing the specific allegations, noted in an interview with me that what looks bad now did not then:</p>
<p>&#8220;These are different times and things look differently.&#8221;</p>
<p>You can say <em>that</em> again. And again after that.</p>
<p><a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/files/2009/04/18443jpg.jpeg"><img src="http://kara.allthingsd.com/files/2009/04/18443jpg-250x208.jpg" alt="18443jpg" title="18443jpg" width="250" height="208" class="alignright size-medium wp-image-12529" /></a></p>
<p>As point of that fact, check out a <a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/20080731/spot-runners-ceo-nick-grouf-speaks">video I did, below, with Grouf last July at Spot Runner offices in Los Angeles</a>, right after it had gotten one of its giant piles of money. (Grouf is pictured here.)</p>
<p>This video took place right after a lot of the transactions that the lawsuit alleges, which makes sense since Spot Runner was the hot start-up at that moment and many would have been trying to get into the action.</p>
<p>I met Grouf many years ago when he&#8211;along with Waxman&#8211;founded PeoplePC and Firefly Networks.</p>
<p>Grouf sold the struggling PeoplePC&#8211;which hawked computers bundled with an online service&#8211;to Earthlink (ELNK) in 2002 for $10 million and assumption of $35 million in liabilities, in a Web 1.0 meltdown deal that followed a disastrous IPO.</p>
<p>But with a hot new start-up, everything looked pretty again, perhaps too pretty, for Grouf.</p>
<p>As I wrote at the time about the hype, which including rumors of Spot Runner being sold for big bucks to Google (GOOG) or Microsoft (MSFT):</p>
<p>&#8220;This is its biggest burden, I think, setting expectations very high for what is still a little start-up&#8230;Who knows whether the company will be able to overcome its hype, but time (and money) will tell.&#8221;</p>
<p>Obviously, we can tell a lot more now.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the Grouf video (the full lawsuit text and a memo Spot Runner sent to employees about it are also below):</p>
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<p>Here is the full lawsuit (click on + button to zoom in):</p>
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<p>And, finally, here is the letter Spot Runner sent to employees, who have suffered from layoffs, about the lawsuit:</p>
<blockquote class="memo"><p>Team,</p>
<p>As you may have heard, WPP, a minority shareholder (less than 3%) in Spot Runner since 2006, filed a lawsuit against the company and its board members primarily related to the sale of Spot Runner stock and Spot Runner’s communications with WPP. This situation is unfortunate, as we appreciate and value the relationships we have with all of our investors and we had hoped for a long and supportive relationship with WPP. We believe these claims are without merit and we will vigorously defend against them, including taking all necessary legal action to protect Spot Runner’s reputation.</p>
<p>We feel strongly that WPP’s complaint contains many baseless accusations and we want to give you a broader perspective on the matter. This lawsuit is unrelated to our products and services&#8211;it is centered on legal agreements entered into with WPP, a sophisticated investor, regarding the way that shareholder stock sales were handled. WPP alleges that Spot Runner’s board members failed to disclose to WPP the stock sales by shareholders, allegedly in violation of the board’s obligations to stockholders, among other things.</p>
<p>We are confident that Spot Runner complied with all of its obligations under the various shareholder agreements. When these sales occurred, there was overwhelming demand for Spot Runner stock and the company did not want to dilute existing shareholders by issuing new shares. Therefore, the founders (in 2006) and the board members and other preferred shareholders (in 2007 and early 2008) agreed to make room for important, new investors and respond to their desire to invest in Spot Runner by selling their own shares. In 2007 and 2008, WPP and other preferred shareholders were given notice that the sales were occurring and they had the opportunity to participate in the sales. In fact, WPP signed various documents acknowledging this opportunity.</p>
<p>Spot Runner and all of its employees conduct business with the utmost integrity. Our team, technologies, and products and services are core assets of which we can all be proud. It is because of your hard work that we have come this far. To that end, we continue to drive hard toward successfully launching Project Malibu and realizing its full potential. You also should know that our board members remain majority shareholders in Spot Runner&#8211;a concrete sign of their commitment to and confidence in the business.</p>
<p>Our outside counsel will work with the board and management team to develop a formal reply, which ultimately will be filed with the court. These legal proceedings should not affect our day-to-day operations. </p>
<p>We are grateful that we can count on you to remain focused on serving our clients and partners to the best of your abilities. </p>
<p>Thank you again for all that you do for Spot Runner.</p></blockquote>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 08:08:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kara Swisher</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[One thing that's nice in these volatile times is that the Winklevoss identical twins--aka the Olympic rowing hunks whom Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg seems to have repeatedly dunked since college--can always be relied upon to create nonstop entertainment for those riveted to their increasingly kooky lawsuit against the hot social-networking site.

In any case, it's only the legal hijinks--either via rank incompetency or, more likely, creative leaking--that I want to know more about, especially since release of heretofore confidential information seems to keep seeping out of this case like some hole-plagued rowing shell.]]></description>
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<p>One thing that&#8217;s nice in these volatile times is that the Winklevoss identical twins&#8211;aka the Olympic rowing hunks whom Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg seems to have repeatedly dunked since college&#8211;can always be relied upon to create nonstop entertainment for those riveted to their increasingly kooky lawsuit against the hot social-networking site.</p>
<p>(Tyler Winklevoss is pictured here and Cameron Winklevoss is below.)</p>
<p>This week, the latest news came from a bizarre cut-and-paste technique that allowed the <a href="http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gtLAd4-SMMfNKbyniHkWG9uJjyzgD969N7O00">Associated Press to get redacted financial details of the settlement</a> related to a lawsuit between Facebook and the Winklevosses, in which they alleged that Zuckerberg stole the idea for Facebook from them.</p>
<p>The method of how AP got to the numbers&#8211;getting to the &#8220;blacked-out portions by copying from an electronic version of the document and pasting the results into another document&#8221;&#8211;was perhaps the most interesting piece of news in the hubbub.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s because the $3.7 billion valuation for Facebook uncovered Harry Potter-style in the court papers&#8211;although treated as <em>new</em> news by the blogosphere&#8211;was actually old news from a while back. </p>
<p>For those not paying attention, the legal document revealed that Facebook agreed to pay the Winklevoss-founded social site ConnectU $20 million in cash and 1,253,326 shares of common stock. </p>
<p>The worth of those shares depends on whether you are using Facebook&#8217;s &#8220;own appraisal&#8221; to set the value of the start-up at $3.7 billion or the fictional-from-the-get-go $15 billion from when Microsoft (MSFT) forked over $240 million for preferred shares in Facebook in late 2007.</p>
<p>(If you&#8217;re bored, you can <a href="http://docs.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/california/candce/5:2007cv01389/189975/474/0.pdf">play investigative reporter on the docs here</a> too!)</p>
<p>In any case, it&#8217;s only the legal hijinks&#8211;either via rank incompetency or, more likely, creative leaking&#8211;that I want to know more about, especially since heretofore confidential information seems to keep seeping out of this case like some hole-plagued rowing shell.</p>
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<p>Besides the invisible ink trick, there was also the &#8220;accidental&#8221; leak earlier this week by the law firm that once represented ConnectU against Facebook about how well it had scored for the Winklevosses.</p>
<p>In a marketing newsletter, Quinn Emanuel Urquhart Oliver &#038; Hedges bragged it had earned them the higher $65 million figure, based on the Microsoft valuation, rather than the lower Facebook one.</p>
<p>ConnectU fired Quinn Emanuel over the settlement&#8211;likely because the lower figure was the right one&#8211;and, presto, the new information suddenly emerges.</p>
<p>And last year, Zuckerberg was subjected to widespread ridicule after the <a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/20071127/more-on-zuckerbergs-legal-woes/">Boston-based magazine 01238 got hold of all sorts of court-sealed goodies about his bad behavior</a> while a student at Harvard University, where he created Facebook.</p>
<p>It just gets curiouser and curiouser.</p>
<p>Of course, the documents that still have not gotten leaked are the alleged &#8220;smoking gun&#8221; that shows Zuckerberg to be guilty and the Winklevii redeemed. While many on the twins&#8217; side have persistently insinuated they exist, such proof has not surfaced as yet.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why, until then, this whole legal circus remains a ship of fools.</p>
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		<title>Yahoogle Countdown&#8211;Will It Blow Up, Get Neutered, Go Judge Judy or Move Forward?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[The election is not the only event with only days to go--a move in face-off Yahoo and Google are in with the Justice Department over their controversial search advertising partnership will have an outcome, sources close to all sides said, before the next President is chosen.

Thus, I predict news either Friday or Monday.]]></description>
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<p>The election is not the only event with only days to go&#8211;a move in face-off Yahoo and Google are in with the Justice Department over their controversial search advertising partnership will have an outcome, sources close to all sides said, before the next President is chosen.</p>
<p>Thus, I predict news either tomorrow or Monday.</p>
<p>Why? Well, campaign news will surely drown out any attention any development might get, of course. </p>
<p>But, actually, for more obvious reasons: Whoever is elected, the Assistant Attorney General for Antitrust, Thomas Barnett, will be leaving that post sometime after the Nov. 4 election.</p>
<p>Thus, Barnett and his team are likely&#8211;after all this noise&#8211;to want to take action of some sort before he becomes, in essence, a lame duck.</p>
<p>Of course, it is ironic that, as the clock counts down the last minutes, a regulator not regarded as a very effective trustbuster and who has taken a mostly hands-off attitude toward meddling with businesses, could launch a lawsuit against the most powerful Internet company in the world.</p>
<p><em>Or not.</em> </p>
<p><a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/20081021/reports-of-yahoogles-death-are-greatly-exaggerated/">Yahoo (YHOO), Google (GOOG) and the Justice Department are still talking</a>, sources said, trying to come to some accommodation.</p>
<p>So, as we wait for the verdict, here&#8217;s a short handicap of options:</p>
<p><strong>1. Google and/or Yahoo walk:</strong></p>
<p><a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/files/2008/10/spock_3.jpg"><img src="http://kara.allthingsd.com/files/2008/10/spock_3-290x300.jpg" alt="" title="spock_3" width="200" height="200" class="alignright size-medium wp-image-5845" /></a></p>
<p>It seems far more likely that Google would do this than Yahoo, given its corporate culture is impatient with moving forward illogically (think Spock and you have the right picture of Google&#8217;s mindset).</p>
<p>I would imagine Google execs do not want to accept any caps or changes to the deal at all, and might conclude such restrictions make it not as worthwhile.</p>
<p>Yahoo, of course, cannot walk as easily, depending on the deal for revenue and because it must avoid having to then turn to Microsoft (MSFT) to strike a search ad deal from a very prone position.</p>
<p>Thus, Yahoo has to be pulling out all the stops to make something work.</p>
<p>Then again, if a Justice Department lawsuit is the alternative, walking would be the best option.</p>
<p><strong>Prediction:</strong> Even odds.</p>
<p><strong>2. Google and Yahoo accept changes:</strong></p>
<p>Whether it be caps or monitoring or forcing Yahoo to strike a similar deal with Microsoft, this option seems like a bad one for the pair, as it hobbles the deal before it even has a chance to be tested.</p>
<p>Plus, the joy of government regulators breathing down your neck 24/7 is, well, priceless, especially after Google CEO Eric Schmidt told regulators he would move forward with or without them.</p>
<p>While Google has now perhaps permanently put the government on notice that is must be more scrutinized than ever going forward with that unfortunate statement, I would be surprised if Google accepted any substantial changes to the deal.</p>
<p><strong>Prediction:</strong> If small adjustments, likely. If more, it would be hard to imagine.</p>
<p><strong>3. The Justice Department files a lawsuit:</strong></p>
<p>Ouch. Bad all around. </p>
<p>First, the Justice Department will have a hard time proving this partnership&#8211;which has not launched&#8211;is damaging. While it is good to have all those nervous advertisers to point to, it will be an uphill slog of a case.</p>
<p>Second, another lawsuit or fight for slap-happy Google? Oh, dear. It just settled the book scanning lawsuit and is still embroiled in a bigger lawsuit with Viacom (VIA) over YouTube copyright infringement. Enough.</p>
<p>Third, a Justice Department lawsuit for Yahoo should be the proverbial straw that breaks Yahoo CEO Jerry Yang&#8217;s rule of the company and would get Yahoo stock to the penny-stock level.</p>
<p><strong>Prediction:</strong> I witnessed the Microsoft antitrust trial, while working at the Washington Post and I am here to say to all parties involved: Do not go there.</p>
<p><strong>4. Justice waves the deal on through as is:</strong></p>
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<p>Wake up, Eric and Jerry, you&#8217;ve been dreaming! Also, in this event, the head of Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer would explode. </p>
<p><strong>Prediction:</strong> Well, it could happen. Also Ralph Nader <em>could</em> get elected.</p>
<p><em>Please see <a href="http://allthingsd.com/about/kara-swisher/ethics/">this disclosure</a> related to me and Google.</em></p>
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		<title>Reports of Yahoogle's Death Are Greatly Exaggerated</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 21:07:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kara Swisher</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Today, The Deal got played, and claimed that Yahoo and Google were likely to abandon their controversial search ad outsourcing deal.

Wrote The Deal's Cecile Kohrs: "A proposed joint venture between rival Internet companies Google Inc. and Yahoo! Inc. appears headed for the trash bin, just ahead of an expected U.S. Department of Justice challenge to the agreement, lawyers close to the deal said." 

Well, maybe it will die at some point. But, in the words of Juba in the last line of the greatest movie ever ("Gladiator," of course!): Not yet.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today, The Deal got played&#8211;my guess is some disgruntled outer player in the regulatory roundelay&#8211;and claimed that Yahoo and Google were likely to abandon their controversial search ad outsourcing deal.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thedeal.com/techconfidential/money-out/blog/antitrust/other-than-the-principals-invo.php">Wrote The Deal&#8217;s Cecile Kohrs</a>: &#8220;A proposed joint venture between rival Internet companies Google Inc. and Yahoo! Inc. appears headed for the trash bin, just ahead of an expected U.S. Department of Justice challenge to the agreement, lawyers close to the deal said.&#8221; </p>
<p><a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/files/2008/10/gladiator_l.jpg"><img src="http://kara.allthingsd.com/files/2008/10/gladiator_l-300x225.jpg" alt="" title="gladiator_l" width="250" height="200" class="alignright size-medium wp-image-5424" /></a></p>
<p>Well, maybe it will die at some point. But, in the words of Juba in the last line of the greatest movie ever (<em>&#8220;Gladiator,&#8221; of course!</em>): Not yet.</p>
<p>Said Google spokesman Adam Kovacevich: &#8220;We are continuing to have cooperative discussions with the Department of Justice about this arrangement and agreed to a brief delay in implementing the agreement while those discussions continue. We are confident that the arrangement is beneficial to competition, but we are not going to discuss the details of the process.&#8221; </p>
<p>It was a sentiment underscored by Google CEO Eric Schmidt, who was doing an economic summit with Democratic Presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama today in Florida and told reporters there when asked about the deal: &#8220;We agreed to extend our discussions &#8230; with the DOJ.&#8221; </p>
<p>Yahoo&#8217;s CEO Jerry Yang also said the same during <a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/20081021/yahoo-predicts-weaker-results-going-forward-but-remains-optimistic-boomtown-less-so/">Yahoo&#8217;s third-quarter earnings call</a> this afternoon.</p>
<p>In fact, that Google (GOOG) and Yahoo (YHOO) lawyers, along with the Justice Department, are <em>still</em> talking is the strongest indication that there might be some middle ground to be found in the <a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/20081020/schmidt-endorses-obama-while-justice-department-mulls-yahoogle-suit/">fight over the future of the search advertising business</a>.</p>
<p>After all, Google is not shy about going to court. Among many others, it took on media giant Viacom over YouTube&#8217;s copyright issues with all the relish of a lipstick-wearing pit bull.</p>
<p>In fact, I am convinced that the search giant&#8217;s corporate mantra is from Travis Bickle in &#8220;Taxi Driver&#8221;: <em>You talkin&#8217; to me? You talkin&#8217; to me? You talkin&#8217; to me? Then who the hell else are you talking &#8230; you talking to me? Well, I&#8217;m the only one here.</em></p>
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<p>And Yahoo? Well, Yahoo can never <em>stop</em> talking, as evidenced recently by its <a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/20081008/what-the-combined-yahoo-aol-might-look-like-as-talks-drag-on-oops-heat-up/">never-ending discussions to merge with the Time Warner (TWX) online unit, AOL</a>.</p>
<p>This is an overall corporate characteristic&#8211;Yahoo often has the tone of a 1970s encounter group.</p>
<p>Plus, the deal to put some Google search ads on its site is an important fountain of revenue Yahoo desperately needs. For its part, Google wants the deal, mostly to keep Microsoft (MSFT) at bay.</p>
<p>As for the Justice Department, it has one big problem if it does go hot and files a lawsuit against the Yahoogle twins: A little thing I like to call &#8220;proof.&#8221;</p>
<p>Now I am no legal eagle, but I am told by experts that it is a little hard to prove damage that has not occurred yet if it is seeking an injunction to stop implementation of the partnership. </p>
<p><a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/files/2008/10/minority-report-ui.jpg"><img src="http://kara.allthingsd.com/files/2008/10/minority-report-ui-300x200.jpg" alt="" title="minority-report-ui" width="250" height="150" class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-5425" /></a></p>
<p>It&#8217;s like the big question in that dumb but watchable Tom Cruise movie, &#8220;Minority Report&#8221;: Can you arrest someone for a murder they <em>might</em> commit?</p>
<p>Google, with its dominant market share that grows daily, may very well be the scariest company on the planet.</p>
<p>(I think it might indeed be and have written <a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/20080417/microhoo-yahoo-and-google-play-house/">in opposition many times to this partnership</a> of the No. 1 and No. 2 players in the search space, but who am I to say?)</p>
<p>But making a case that it will turn Yahoo into a satellite, raise ad prices and turn into Godzilla, all before it actually happens, is tough.</p>
<p>More to the point, with all the pressure from public interest groups and advertisers who oppose the deal without some checks and balances, along with Microsoft&#8217;s relentless lobbying, some accommodation obviously must be made.</p>
<p>Thus, that is going to take more days of jabbering, probably into next week (although it all does have to be settled before the election, when the regulators pressing the case might be out of a job).</p>
<p>After those blabby avenues are exhausted, of course, we might very well see the digital gladiators go at it. Or abandon the field.</p>
<p>But not <em>yet</em>.</p>
<p><em>Please see <a href="http://allthingsd.com/about/kara-swisher/ethics/">this disclosure</a> related to me and Google.</em></p>
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		<title>Schmidt Endorses Obama, While Justice Department Mulls Yahoogle Suit</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 19:11:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kara Swisher</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[You have to admire the sledgehammer stylings of Google CEO Eric Schmidt, who loves to accuse Microsoft (justifiably, I might add) of bullying lobbying tactics in our nation's capital, in the latest moves in the regulatory fight over the controversial search ad outsourcing partnership that Yahoo and Google have struck.

Today, just days before the Justice Department will decide whether to move ahead with a lawsuit to stop the Yahoogle deal from proceeding or let it move forward with some other remedy or tweaking, Schmidt announced that he would be campaigning for Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama in the last two weeks of the election.]]></description>
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<p>You have to admire the sledgehammer stylings of Google CEO Eric Schmidt, who loves to accuse Microsoft (justifiably, I might add) of bullying lobbying tactics in our nation&#8217;s capital, in the latest moves in the regulatory fight over the controversial search advertising outsourcing partnership that Yahoo and Google have struck.</p>
<p>Today, just days before the Justice Department will decide whether to move ahead with a lawsuit to stop the Yahoogle deal from proceeding or let it move forward with some other remedy or tweaking, Schmidt announced that he would be campaigning for Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama in the last two weeks of the election.</p>
<p><a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122446734650049199.html">Schmidt said in an interview</a> that it was a personal endorsement and not from the company, even though many of its top execs are longtime supporters of Obama.</p>
<p>&#8220;I&#8217;m doing this personally,&#8221; he said. &#8220;Google is officially neutral.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well maybe so, and Schmidt has long been politically active himself.</p>
<p>But I cannot help but be struck by the perfect timing of the announcement, right as government officials under the Bush administration must make a move before the election makes them unable to do so. </p>
<p>(Then again, if Schmidt had endorsed Obama <em>after</em> any move by the government, it probably would have looked worse.)</p>
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<p>In any case, it now makes any action by Washington policymakers even more complex.</p>
<p>To begin, Assistant Attorney General for Antitrust Thomas Barnett (pictured here), who will be leaving that post after the November election, has not been much of a trustbuster, to say the least, taking a mostly hands-off attitude toward business regulation. </p>
<p>But, in taking a long look at the deal in the first place, a partnership that does not actually need Justice Department approval to move forward, and hiring an outside counsel too, Barnett has also put himself out on a limb.</p>
<p>Thus, he is likely not to pat Yahoo (YHOO) and Google (GOOG) on the back and wish them good luck in their exciting endeavor.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s especially true given that a wide range of advertisers has expressed worries about the deal, which they say will lift online search ad prices and create a dangerous duopoly, along with public interest groups that have called the deal dangerous. Plus, there are also the many other special interest groups, all jacked up by Microsoft&#8217;s lobbying. </p>
<p>(It still surprises me up that some reports find it shocking that Microsoft is being aggressive here&#8211;<em>helloooooo</em>&#8211;Google would do exactly the same if the tables were turned.)</p>
<p>Google and Yahoo are arguing that the deal is nonexclusive, does not violate antitrust laws and that prices will not rise since they are determined by auction.</p>
<p>Still, sources close to all parties&#8211;Yahoo, Google and Microsoft (MSFT)&#8211;said the decision from government regulators, expected as early as this Wednesday, could still go a number of ways. </p>
<p>Under one scenario, the government could file a lawsuit and ask for an injunction to stop the deal from starting at all.</p>
<p>This move would be the most drastic of all. And, more to the point, it is hardest to prove, because there is no actual damage yet to point to as a result of the deal, even if the pair do control upward of 80 percent of the search market.</p>
<p>Under a second, the Justice Department could file a lawsuit opposing the deal, but not ask that it be stopped.</p>
<p>That means that the Yahoo and Google deal could go forward with implementation, even with the suit hanging over its head. It is a move that would provide a lot of data to determine the true impact of the No. 1 and No. 2 search players being in business together.</p>
<p>Under a third scenario, regulators could give Google and Yahoo tacit approval for the deal, with certain new rules about caps or monitoring that are agreed to in advance.</p>
<p>This option is the most complicated, since it is hard to determine what is dangerous and what is not in the fast-moving world of search. Will the Justice Department have a monitor sitting cluelessly next to Yahoo and Google engineers as they fiddle with the algorithm?</p>
<p>Still some sort of new rules to the deal are expected, if Justice takes a pass on a lawsuit.</p>
<p>&#8220;They are not going to hold a parade for us, and it is obvious they are interested in putting appropriate guardrails in place,&#8221; said one source close to Yahoo and Google. &#8220;But they might just say, &#8216;Go ahead, but we are watching you very carefully.&#8217;&#8221;</p>
<p>Under a fourth scenario, which Google is pushing for strongly, the Justice Department could simply pass on taking any action at all. </p>
<p>In that case, which seems unlikely, it is not without possibility that some advertisers or even Microsoft could go to court to seek their own injunctions, although that would be extreme.</p>
<p>Microsoft could also ask, given that the Yahoogle deal is nonexclusive, to make a similar deal with Yahoo. If it is rejected, the software giant could use that as proof that it is not.</p>
<p>But what is perhaps most interesting is that Yahoo and Google have not completely agreed as to how to handle this difficult process.</p>
<p>Yahoo, which has only recently become more active in lobbying for the deal, has been more willing to allow the government to set parameters in order to get regulatory blessing.</p>
<p>The company has also been quietly telling advertisers worried about it there are moves to come&#8211;Yahoo execs are obviously referring to a possible merger deal with Time Warner over its AOL unit&#8211;that mean that advertisers should be less scared of Yahoo becoming a satellite of Google.</p>
<p>Google, as is typical for it, has been more aggressive in its stance, holding out for less&#8211;if any&#8211;tweaking of the original Yahoogle deal.</p>
<p><a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/files/2008/07/yahoogle.jpg"><img src="http://kara.allthingsd.com/files/2008/07/yahoogle.jpg" alt="" title="yahoogle" width="192" height="58" class="alignright size-medium wp-image-2358" /></a></p>
<p>Even its partner Yahoo thinks the powerful Internet giant has had a tin ear in this regard so far, with Yahoo execs cringing when Schmidt was widely quoted as saying that the deal would move forward with or without Justice Department approval.</p>
<p>The statement by Schmidt, in which he also added, &#8220;time is money in our business,&#8221; made him seem a bit arrogant about the role policymakers have.</p>
<p>Obviously, Schmidt misspoke, which all neophyte politicians tend to do now and again.</p>
<p>Today, he was much more circumspect, although he still managed to get a dig&#8211;or was it a warning?&#8211;in.</p>
<p>&#8220;My sense is, the Justice Department makes judgments on these issues independent of politics,&#8221; Schmidt said, priming the pump perfectly. &#8220;It would be unfair to Justice to imply [that supporting Sen. Obama] would make a difference.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes, that would be <em>completely</em> unfair.</p>
<p><em>Please see <a href="http://allthingsd.com/about/kara-swisher/ethics/">this disclosure</a> related to me and Google.</em></p>
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		<title>Rob Glaser Talks About Steal&#8211;Oops&#8211;RealDVD</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 19:12:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When he debuted his company's new DVD copier at DEMOfall recently, called RealDVD, RealNetworks' Rob Glaser did a video interview with BoomTown about it.

And now that RealNetworks and Hollywood are cross-suing each other over RealDVD--in the latest clash over the still-contentious copyright issue that separates the tech and entertainment industries--it's time for a replay!]]></description>
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<p>When he debuted his company&#8217;s new DVD copier at DEMOfall recently, called <a href="http://www.realdvd.com/">RealDVD</a>, RealNetworks&#8217; Rob Glaser did a <a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/20080909/realnetworks-rob-glaser-talks-about-realdvd/">video interview with BoomTown</a> about it.</p>
<p>And now that RealNetworks (RNWK) and Hollywood are <a href="http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/20080930/rent-rip-return-redux/">cross-suing each other over RealDVD</a>&#8211;in the latest clash over the still-contentious copyright issue that separates the tech and entertainment industries&#8211;it&#8217;s time for a replay!</p>
<p>The RealDVD software allows a user to rip all the parts of a DVD, including cover art, onto a computer. It costs about $30.</p>
<p>Hollywood studios, which <a href="http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/20080930/stealdvd-well-you-were-asking-for-it/">filed a lawsuit</a> in federal court Tuesday, maintain that RealDVD is illegal, and one of their reps called it &#8220;StealDVD.&#8221;</p>
<p><em>Haw, haw</em>. This is what apparently passes for clever in Hollywood these days.  </p>
<p>But before the entertainment giants&#8217; lawsuit, RealNetworks filed its own suit, claiming it was protecting the fair-use rights of consumers to make copies of content they had purchased.</p>
<p>To avoid violating digital rights management schemes, RealDVD has added its own DRM layer, preventing ripped DVDs from being copied and shared and imposing further barriers to piracy.</p>
<p>But there are still possibilities for illegal ripping, of course, because RealDVD users must promise not to copy videos they don&#8217;t own.</p>
<p>No surprise&#8211;an honor-system product that makes it even easier to copy DVDs was not exactly welcome by Hollywood, which has been trying to protect its movie revenues from suffering the same fate as the music industry via rampant CD-ripping.</p>
<p>Thus, the typical mainstream media reaction to the inevitability of consumers wanting to digitize content: More lawsuits!</p>
<p>In any case, here&#8217;s the video of Glaser talking about RealDVD:</p>
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