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		<title>Is Google Playing Chicken With the Justice Department?</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 08:12:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kara Swisher</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Are Google and Yahoo thinking of walking away from their controversial search advertising deal, as reported in an amusingly hedged report in The Wall Street Journal last night?

I would bet my Barry Manilow record collection, based on rumblings on Wednesday among those close to the case, that Google is a key whispery source here, sending a very public signal to the Justice Department that it would walk if pushed too far and leave regulators with egg on their faces for not letting the search giant help the struggling Yahoo.]]></description>
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<p>Are Google and Yahoo thinking of walking of away from their controversial search advertising deal, as reported in an <a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122540817013886075.html?mod=testMod">amusingly hedged report in The Wall Street Journal</a> last night?</p>
<p>How&#8217;s this for covering your bases in a story: &#8220;Following a meeting Thursday with the Justice Department, the companies could announce a decision to back away from the partnership&#8211;or a last-minute resolution, if one is reached&#8211;by the middle of next week, according to these sources.&#8221;</p>
<p>So they will back away unless, of course, they <em>don&#8217;t</em> and soon? </p>
<p>I would bet my Barry Manilow record collection, based on rumblings on Wednesday among those close to the case, that Google (GOOG) is a key whispery source here, sending a very public signal to the Justice Department that it would walk if pushed too far and leave regulators with egg on their faces for not letting the search giant help the struggling Yahoo.</p>
<p>But, let me be even more concrete, since The Journal report is dead wrong on at least one count. I can tell you for sure, based on many sources close to Yahoo (YHOO) that walking away is its last option, outside of a lawsuit, and it still hopes to make the partnership work.</p>
<p>That was underlined last night in a statement by Washington D.C.-based Yahoo spokeswoman Tracy Schmaler:</p>
<p>&#8220;We have been working with the Department of Justice regarding our agreement with Google and those discussions are ongoing. As we have said, we believe strongly that this agreement will strengthen Yahoo!&#8217;s competitive position in online advertising and will help to drive a more robust, higher quality Yahoo! marketplace for our advertisers, publishers and users.&#8221;</p>
<p>And I do not believe she is spinning here, even though that is her job.</p>
<p>Indeed, Yahoo can ill afford to pull out so easily, because it needs the revenue the deal might provide and simply cannot take the hit to its stock the collapse of the partnership would entail.</p>
<p>Such a series of one-two punches after its already tumultuous year would be devastating. It would also put Yahoo in the direct crosshairs of Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer as its only partnering alternative in search.</p>
<p>Going it alone, of course, while preferable, is no longer an easy option for Yahoo, since keeping its No. 2 position in search would be expensive and brutal, especially sandwiched by No. 1 Google and No. 3 Microsoft (MSFT).</p>
<p>And, even more vexing, several sources at Time Warner (TWX) told me they are waiting until the resolution of the Yahoogle situation before consummating the ongoing merger discussions with Yahoo, because of the uncertainty of the impact on the Internet giant.</p>
<p>&#8220;It is linked to and just overhangs everything,&#8221; said one Yahoo exec about the long-pending Google partnership. &#8220;We want and need this deal, and would not be the ones to walk away first.&#8221;</p>
<p>As I have written, that would be Google, which benefits a lot from the will-they-or-won&#8217;t-they speculation here and cannot mind letting its intentions get some play (along with state attorneys general, who were also present at the Thursday meeting, and for whom leaking for simple self-aggrandizement is a basic character trait). </p>
<p><a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/files/2008/10/5150021100.jpg"><img src="http://kara.allthingsd.com/files/2008/10/5150021100.jpg" alt="" title="5150021100" width="190" height="275" class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-5922" /></a></p>
<p>In fact, there was already much chatter that reached me on Wednesday that Google was sprinkling crumbs here and there to the media pigeons, all centered around the fact that it might balk at any onerous Justice Department demands, such as caps on search it could serve, or a consent decree that would require monitoring.</p>
<p>The Journal story mentioned the consent decree, which would be welcomed at Googleplex in Mountain view, Calif., like nonorganic mango nectar and bleached flour. The idea of regulators ferreting around its servers is simply not an option for the secretive company.</p>
<p>As <a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/20081030/yahoogle-countdown-will-it-blow-up-get-neutered-go-judge-judy-or-move-forward/">I wrote early yesterday about the possibility of Google walking</a>, in a predictive laundry list of options for Yahoogle earlier yesterday:</p>
<blockquote><p>It seems far more likely that Google would do this than Yahoo, given its corporate culture is impatient with moving forward illogically (think Spock and you have the right picture of Google’s mindset).</p>
<p>I would imagine Google execs do not want to accept any caps or changes to the deal at all, and might conclude such restrictions make it not as worthwhile&#8230;</p>
<p>Plus, the joy of government regulators breathing down your neck 24/7 is, well, priceless, especially after Google CEO Eric Schmidt told regulators he would move forward with or without them.</p>
<p>While Google has now perhaps permanently put the government on notice that is must be more scrutinized than ever going forward with that unfortunate statement, I would be surprised if Google accepted any substantial changes to the deal.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>And, while it might be testing the Justice Department in hopes of salvaging the deal, I suspect Google&#8211;as much as its founders want to help out Yahoo CEO Jerry Yang and block Microsoft at the same time&#8211;is just now figuring out that walking might actually be the best move.</p>
<p>First off, even though it moved forward with the partnership, many top execs at the company were dead set against it, mostly due to the undue scrutiny it would bring to Google.</p>
<p>In fact, early on, some of its own operatives in D.C. expressed worry&#8211;largely ignored at HQ, where execs really do see themselves as not evil&#8211;about Google&#8217;s growing image as a scary behemoth.</p>
<p><a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/files/2008/10/300px-douglasmacarthur.jpg"><img src="http://kara.allthingsd.com/files/2008/10/300px-douglasmacarthur.jpg" alt="" title="300px-douglasmacarthur" class="centered size-medium wp-image-5927" /></a></p>
<p>Second, while Google seldom runs from a good fight&#8211;in fact, it often runs directly towards them&#8211;tangling with the federal government might be like crossing the 38th Parallel in Korea for the company. And you know how <em>that</em> went for General Douglas MacArthur!</p>
<p>It would certainly put the full attention of regulators on every move Google might make in the future, which is not good.</p>
<p>Third, the Yahoogle controversy, while being stoked by Microsoft&#8217;s relentless lobbying, has also brought into the light exactly how scared of Google&#8217;s power advertisers truly are.</p>
<p>And that would be <em>terrified</em>.</p>
<p>The company cannot simply blame Microsoft for manufacturing this fuss&#8211;even though it has surely pulled out all the stops in its bag of tricks.</p>
<p>In truth, whether Google chooses to accept this stark reality or not, many advertisers, publishers and public interest groups have been raising some real concerns about its dominance, which it ignores at its peril.</p>
<p>Lastly and perhaps most importantly, times have changed drastically as the economy has tanked.</p>
<p>Thus, Google&#8211;like a lot of other tech firms&#8211;has been engaged in a very serious company-wide appraisal of its business in the downturn. </p>
<p>One of Google&#8217;s internal mantras, I have been told by many inside and outside the company, is a variation of this phrase: Feed the winners, starve the losers.</p>
<p>It would come as no surprise, given the initial internal doubt about the partnership, that the Yahoogle deal might have suddenly become perceived at the company as a loser, and access to Google&#8217;s fabulous cafeteria might be about to be cut off.</p>
<p><a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/files/2008/10/rebel1.jpg"><img src="http://kara.allthingsd.com/files/2008/10/rebel1-300x150.jpg" alt="" title="rebel1" width="300" height="150" class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-5924" /></a></p>
<p>Whatever Google&#8217;s true intentions, in playing chicken, it is courting danger. </p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_of_chicken">According to Wikipedia</a>, &#8220;the principle of the game is that while each player prefers not to yield to the other, the outcome where neither player yields is the worst possible one for both players.&#8221;</p>
<p>As in, if everyone is trying to win, it always ends in a fatal crash.</p>
<p><em>Please see <a href="http://allthingsd.com/about/kara-swisher/ethics/">this disclosure</a> related to me and Google.</em></p>
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		<title>Dueling Spokesman in the Yahoogle Fight Say Exactly the Same Thing</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 23:28:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kara Swisher</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Today, the New York Times did a thumbsucker on the fight over the controversial advertising partnership that Yahoo and Google have struck that is opposed by Microsoft, some advertisers and, maybe soon, the Justice Department.

Thank goodness then for the liveliest part, which came when the Google and Microsoft talking heads squared off.

Just like the dudes pictured here! Schwiiiiing!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today, the <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/20/business/media/20lobby.html?scp=2&#038;sq=google&#038;st=cse">New York Times did a thumbsucker</a> on the fight over the <a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/20081020/schmidt-endorses-obama-while-justice-department-mulls-yahoogle-suit/">controversial search advertising partnership that Yahoo and Google have struck</a> that is opposed by Microsoft, some advertisers and, maybe soon, the Justice Department.</p>
<p>(Quick synopsis of the extremely obvious: Once-politically dopey Microsoft has gone all K Street, although stumbly Google is learning fast to line up its lobbying ducks too! Mayhem to ensue.)</p>
<p><a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/files/2008/10/cacophony.jpg"><img src="http://kara.allthingsd.com/files/2008/10/cacophony.jpg" alt="" title="cacophony" width="250" height="250" class="alignright size-full wp-image-5351" /></a></p>
<p>Thank goodness then for the liveliest part, which came when the Google (GOOG) and Microsoft (MSFT) talking heads squared off.</p>
<p>Just like the dudes pictured here. <em>Schwiiiiing!</em></p>
<p>Sadly, there is no word from the PR person for Yahoo (YHOO), who is probably the smartest one of the three for not entering the fray.</p>
<p>Because, if you close yours eyes, the email messages to the Times&#8217;s reporter from the pair sound almost like the spokesmen for dueling presidential candidates and are just as illuminating (except &#8220;cacophony of concerns&#8221; is kind of a pretty turn of phrase)!</p>
<p>But you be the judge: </p>
<p><strong>Microsoft spokesman Jack Evans:</strong> </p>
<p><em>There&#8217;s an old rule in debate: if you&#8217;re not winning on substance, talk about the process. Anyone who suggests that lobbying by one party is responsible for the overwhelming opposition to the deal simply isn&#8217;t listening to the cacophony of concerns expressed by advertisers, publishers, consumer groups, legal experts and lawmakers.</em></p>
<p><strong>Google spokesman Adam Kovacevich:</strong> </p>
<p><em>There is no doubt that Microsoft has been the most energetic opponent of this agreement and has worked hard from behind the scenes to generate much of the opposition to this deal. But most people in Washington have dismissed those efforts as a big company simply trying to slow down its competitors.</em></p>
<p><em>Please see <a href="http://allthingsd.com/about/kara-swisher/ethics/">this disclosure</a> related to me and Google.</em></p>
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		<title>Schmidt Endorses Obama, While Justice Department Mulls Yahoogle Suit</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 19:11:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kara Swisher</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[You have to admire the sledgehammer stylings of Google CEO Eric Schmidt, who loves to accuse Microsoft (justifiably, I might add) of bullying lobbying tactics in our nation's capital, in the latest moves in the regulatory fight over the controversial search ad outsourcing partnership that Yahoo and Google have struck.

Today, just days before the Justice Department will decide whether to move ahead with a lawsuit to stop the Yahoogle deal from proceeding or let it move forward with some other remedy or tweaking, Schmidt announced that he would be campaigning for Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama in the last two weeks of the election.]]></description>
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<p>You have to admire the sledgehammer stylings of Google CEO Eric Schmidt, who loves to accuse Microsoft (justifiably, I might add) of bullying lobbying tactics in our nation&#8217;s capital, in the latest moves in the regulatory fight over the controversial search advertising outsourcing partnership that Yahoo and Google have struck.</p>
<p>Today, just days before the Justice Department will decide whether to move ahead with a lawsuit to stop the Yahoogle deal from proceeding or let it move forward with some other remedy or tweaking, Schmidt announced that he would be campaigning for Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama in the last two weeks of the election.</p>
<p><a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122446734650049199.html">Schmidt said in an interview</a> that it was a personal endorsement and not from the company, even though many of its top execs are longtime supporters of Obama.</p>
<p>&#8220;I&#8217;m doing this personally,&#8221; he said. &#8220;Google is officially neutral.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well maybe so, and Schmidt has long been politically active himself.</p>
<p>But I cannot help but be struck by the perfect timing of the announcement, right as government officials under the Bush administration must make a move before the election makes them unable to do so. </p>
<p>(Then again, if Schmidt had endorsed Obama <em>after</em> any move by the government, it probably would have looked worse.)</p>
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<p>In any case, it now makes any action by Washington policymakers even more complex.</p>
<p>To begin, Assistant Attorney General for Antitrust Thomas Barnett (pictured here), who will be leaving that post after the November election, has not been much of a trustbuster, to say the least, taking a mostly hands-off attitude toward business regulation. </p>
<p>But, in taking a long look at the deal in the first place, a partnership that does not actually need Justice Department approval to move forward, and hiring an outside counsel too, Barnett has also put himself out on a limb.</p>
<p>Thus, he is likely not to pat Yahoo (YHOO) and Google (GOOG) on the back and wish them good luck in their exciting endeavor.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s especially true given that a wide range of advertisers has expressed worries about the deal, which they say will lift online search ad prices and create a dangerous duopoly, along with public interest groups that have called the deal dangerous. Plus, there are also the many other special interest groups, all jacked up by Microsoft&#8217;s lobbying. </p>
<p>(It still surprises me up that some reports find it shocking that Microsoft is being aggressive here&#8211;<em>helloooooo</em>&#8211;Google would do exactly the same if the tables were turned.)</p>
<p>Google and Yahoo are arguing that the deal is nonexclusive, does not violate antitrust laws and that prices will not rise since they are determined by auction.</p>
<p>Still, sources close to all parties&#8211;Yahoo, Google and Microsoft (MSFT)&#8211;said the decision from government regulators, expected as early as this Wednesday, could still go a number of ways. </p>
<p>Under one scenario, the government could file a lawsuit and ask for an injunction to stop the deal from starting at all.</p>
<p>This move would be the most drastic of all. And, more to the point, it is hardest to prove, because there is no actual damage yet to point to as a result of the deal, even if the pair do control upward of 80 percent of the search market.</p>
<p>Under a second, the Justice Department could file a lawsuit opposing the deal, but not ask that it be stopped.</p>
<p>That means that the Yahoo and Google deal could go forward with implementation, even with the suit hanging over its head. It is a move that would provide a lot of data to determine the true impact of the No. 1 and No. 2 search players being in business together.</p>
<p>Under a third scenario, regulators could give Google and Yahoo tacit approval for the deal, with certain new rules about caps or monitoring that are agreed to in advance.</p>
<p>This option is the most complicated, since it is hard to determine what is dangerous and what is not in the fast-moving world of search. Will the Justice Department have a monitor sitting cluelessly next to Yahoo and Google engineers as they fiddle with the algorithm?</p>
<p>Still some sort of new rules to the deal are expected, if Justice takes a pass on a lawsuit.</p>
<p>&#8220;They are not going to hold a parade for us, and it is obvious they are interested in putting appropriate guardrails in place,&#8221; said one source close to Yahoo and Google. &#8220;But they might just say, &#8216;Go ahead, but we are watching you very carefully.&#8217;&#8221;</p>
<p>Under a fourth scenario, which Google is pushing for strongly, the Justice Department could simply pass on taking any action at all. </p>
<p>In that case, which seems unlikely, it is not without possibility that some advertisers or even Microsoft could go to court to seek their own injunctions, although that would be extreme.</p>
<p>Microsoft could also ask, given that the Yahoogle deal is nonexclusive, to make a similar deal with Yahoo. If it is rejected, the software giant could use that as proof that it is not.</p>
<p>But what is perhaps most interesting is that Yahoo and Google have not completely agreed as to how to handle this difficult process.</p>
<p>Yahoo, which has only recently become more active in lobbying for the deal, has been more willing to allow the government to set parameters in order to get regulatory blessing.</p>
<p>The company has also been quietly telling advertisers worried about it there are moves to come&#8211;Yahoo execs are obviously referring to a possible merger deal with Time Warner over its AOL unit&#8211;that mean that advertisers should be less scared of Yahoo becoming a satellite of Google.</p>
<p>Google, as is typical for it, has been more aggressive in its stance, holding out for less&#8211;if any&#8211;tweaking of the original Yahoogle deal.</p>
<p><a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/files/2008/07/yahoogle.jpg"><img src="http://kara.allthingsd.com/files/2008/07/yahoogle.jpg" alt="" title="yahoogle" width="192" height="58" class="alignright size-medium wp-image-2358" /></a></p>
<p>Even its partner Yahoo thinks the powerful Internet giant has had a tin ear in this regard so far, with Yahoo execs cringing when Schmidt was widely quoted as saying that the deal would move forward with or without Justice Department approval.</p>
<p>The statement by Schmidt, in which he also added, &#8220;time is money in our business,&#8221; made him seem a bit arrogant about the role policymakers have.</p>
<p>Obviously, Schmidt misspoke, which all neophyte politicians tend to do now and again.</p>
<p>Today, he was much more circumspect, although he still managed to get a dig&#8211;or was it a warning?&#8211;in.</p>
<p>&#8220;My sense is, the Justice Department makes judgments on these issues independent of politics,&#8221; Schmidt said, priming the pump perfectly. &#8220;It would be unfair to Justice to imply [that supporting Sen. Obama] would make a difference.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes, that would be <em>completely</em> unfair.</p>
<p><em>Please see <a href="http://allthingsd.com/about/kara-swisher/ethics/">this disclosure</a> related to me and Google.</em></p>
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