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		<title>Liveblogging the Facebook Our-ToS-Is-Your-ToS Press Conference</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 19:14:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kara Swisher</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[BoomTown is impatiently cooling heels waiting for a press conference to begin about "new steps Facebook is taking to improve user understanding and ownership of the Facebook terms of service and, more generally, the policies of the Facebook service."

The Yahoo reorg finally announced this morning is positively thrilling in comparison! It's like being at the Constitutional Convention, except for geeks.

But we're liveblogging it anyway!]]></description>
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<p>BoomTown is impatiently cooling heels, waiting for a press conference to begin about &#8220;new steps Facebook is taking to improve user understanding and ownership of the Facebook terms of service and, more generally, the policies of the Facebook service.&#8221;</p>
<p>The <a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/20090226/bartz-blogs-reorg-the-entire-memo-to-employees/">Yahoo (YHOO) reorg finally announced this morning</a> is positively thrilling in comparison!</p>
<p>But we&#8217;re liveblogging it anyway!</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s what I got in the morning mail:</p>
<p><em>Hi Kara&#8211;</p>
<p>You are invited to participate in a press conference call with Mark Zuckerberg today at 11am PT where he will announce the new steps Facebook is taking to improve user understanding and ownership of the Facebook terms of service and, more generally, the policies of the Facebook service. </p>
<p>For more and future updates we encourage you to join the Facebook Group called the Official Group for Media &#038; Analysts Following Facebook.</em></p>
<p>Also this:</p>
<p><em>Subject: Facebook Opens Governance of Service and Policy Process to Users</p>
<p>Today we’re announcing new opportunities for users to play a meaningful role in determining the policies governing our site. We released the first proposals subject to these procedures&#8211;The Facebook Principles, a set of values that will guide the development of the service, and Statement of Rights and Responsibilities that governs Facebook’s operations. Users will have the opportunity to review, comment and vote on these documents over the coming weeks and, if they are approved, other future policy changes. We’ve posted the documents in separate groups and have invited users to offer comments and suggestions. You can find these groups here:</p>
<p>Facebook Principles<br />
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=54964476066</p>
<p>Statement of Rights and Responsibilities<br />
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=67758697570</p>
<p>For more information and the full press release, please check out the recent news section of this group.</p>
<p>As always, you can feel free to email us with any questions at press@facebook.com</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
The Facebook Team</em></p>
<p><strong>11:11 am:</strong></p>
<p>Facebook PR honcho Elliot Schrage opens up the conference, but I am honestly only hear: &#8220;Blah, blah, blah.&#8221;</p>
<p>Then, Facebook Founder and CEO Mark Zuckerberg comes on.</p>
<p>&#8220;Openness and transparency is not just an end state,&#8221; he said. &#8220;It&#8217;s also a process.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/files/2009/02/bdsdtit2.jpg"><img src="http://kara.allthingsd.com/files/2009/02/bdsdtit2-300x208.jpg" alt="bdsdtit2" title="bdsdtit2" width="275" height="180" class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-10486" /></a></p>
<p><em>Say what, Willis?</em></p>
<p>Soon Zuckerberg is explaining how he wants to craft Facebook&#8217;s rules of the road going forward. It&#8217;s like being at the Constitutional Convention, except for geeks.</p>
<p>Alert! Comment! Notify! Transparency! <em>Oversharing!</em></p>
<p><strong>11:17 am:</strong></p>
<p>&#8220;We want to be as clear as possible that we do not own user data,&#8221; said Zuckerberg. &#8220;We feel really bad about that.&#8221;</p>
<p>Us too! </p>
<p><strong>11:21 am:</strong></p>
<p>I get to ask the first question, which is about how this whole mess happened.</p>
<p>Zuckerberg said Facebook had made previous changes all the time to its Terms of Service to complex legal documents. This time, in trying to make them simpler, &#8220;we made a few mistakes,&#8221; which in turn set off a firestorm.</p>
<p>Ah, the mistakes-were-made defense!</p>
<p>&#8220;A lot of the feedback was fair,&#8221; acknowledged Zuckerberg, who then talked about the new notification and feedback and comments options, so it will not happen ever again. Except next month. </p>
<p>Also, there will be a vote. Well, only on some issues that get people all hot and bothered, presumably. But who decides what gets voted on and who wins the vote?</p>
<p>Unclear. But vote early and often.</p>
<p>But, said Schrage: &#8220;We underestimated the sense of ownership&#8221; that Facebook users have for the service.</p>
<p><strong>11:25 am:</strong></p>
<p>A question about whether or not Facebook should have known better after its Beacon advertising debacle.</p>
<p>Not the same thing, said Zuckerberg. But point taken!</p>
<p><strong>11:27 am:</strong></p>
<p>More legal stuff. <em>Zzzzzz</em>.</p>
<p>Then a question on phishing scams. Off topic! Schrage cuts it off tout de suite. Sorry, fella, but this is about one screw-up at a time.</p>
<p>Another shouldn&#8217;t-you-have-known-better related question, referring back to the News Feed debacle of 2007. That was before the Beacon debacle of 2008. Which was before the ToS debacle of 2009. (Is anyone noticing a pattern here?)</p>
<p><a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/files/2009/02/casper.gif"><img src="http://kara.allthingsd.com/files/2009/02/casper.gif" alt="casper" title="casper" width="150" height="245" class="alignleft size-full wp-image-10487" /></a></p>
<p>In other words, Facebook should have known better.</p>
<p>Radical transparency, said Zuckerberg: &#8220;This is all about us trusting our users.&#8221;</p>
<p>He might start that ball rolling by not sneaking up on us all the time.</p>
<p><strong>11:33 am:</strong></p>
<p>More about rules of the road. More about the transparent community.</p>
<p>Zuckerberg is now fully channelling Casper the Friendly Ghost.</p>
<p>Call ends.</p>
<p><em>Boo!</em></p>
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		<title>And the Zuckerberg-Bashing Begins&#8230;</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 22:12:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kara Swisher</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[As inevitable as air, Silicon Valley likes to build them up and then tear them down. 
Thus, the bell now tolls for Facebook Founder Mark Zuckerberg. 
We at BoomTown have been consistent and persistent in voicing our various worries about the young entrepreneur, from one of our very first posts, questioning (we think fairly) the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As inevitable as air, Silicon Valley likes to build them up and then tear them down. </p>
<p>Thus, the bell now tolls for Facebook Founder Mark Zuckerberg. </p>
<p>We at BoomTown have been consistent and persistent in voicing our various worries about the young entrepreneur, from one of our <a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/20070419/facebook-about-face/">very first posts</a>, questioning (we think fairly) the <a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/20071025/memo-to-mark-boomtown-is-baaaack-and-were-still-dubious/">unproven business underpinnings of the hot social network</a>, the <a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/20071009/the-childrens-hour-facebook-apps-are-for-toddlers-there-we-said-it/">juvenile nature of its much vaunted third-party widgets</a>, the <a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/20070925/15-billion-more-reasons-to-worry-about-facebook/">insanity of its $15 billion valuation</a>, its <a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/20071201/a-well-deserved-court-loss-for-facebook/">inane legal fights</a> and the <a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/20071130/ironic-yes-but-zuckerbergs-privacy-violated/">problems with its worrisome ad efforts</a>. </p>
<p>We&#8217;ve also taken (we think probably unfairly) shots at those flip-flops he wears. And we did call him a toddler CEO, also a low blow, we have to admit.</p>
<p>But now, it seems, a mob is forming, sparked by the issues around Facebook&#8217;s controversial Beacon ad program, which can track your purchases on some external sites and send the information back to your Facebook profile&#8217;s news feed.</p>
<p>While it made some changes in Beacon last week, Facebook has not given users a global opt-out of the controversial marketing system in which the social network is seeking to link behavior and advertising more tightly for supposedly bigger payoffs.</p>
<p>The mainstream media and blogosphere, which recently were feting him, have now turned and ire has been growing over Beacon, which seems to be focusing everyone on the inexperience of Zuckerberg and the challenges facing Facebook. </p>
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<p>That was clear in a very cogent piece by Josh Quittner on his Techland blog for Fortune today, which was titled <a href="http://techland.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2007/12/04/rip-facebook/">&#8220;RIP Facebook?&#8221;</a></p>
<p>He writes:</p>
<blockquote><p>A lot of people say that Facebook has jumped the shark. That&#8217;s flat out wrong. In fact, Facebook is now being devoured by the shark. There&#8217;s so much blood in the water, it’s attracting other sharks. And if Facebook&#8217;s not careful, one of them is bound to come along and finish it off. I&#8217;ve never seen anything like it in the annals of fast-rising tech companies that fail.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>As Zuckerberg might say: That bites.</p>
<p>And here is a photo that was put on the <a href="http://fakesteve.blogspot.com/2007/12/facebook-is-all-about-transparency.html">Fake Steve Jobs blog,</a> which was using the <a href="http://www.photocrank.com/">PhotoCrank</a> service, where users can add captions:</p>
<p><img src='http://kara.allthingsd.com/files/2007/12/renderclean.jpeg' alt='zuck' /></p>
<p>Oh my. </p>
<p>As Quittner writes correctly, right now it is the press that has turned on Zuckerberg, which is sure to be followed by much more important advertisers, who shy away from controversy. </p>
<p>We&#8217;ll see how it plays out, but it is surely a flash point moment for Facebook.</p>
<p>Or in the immortal words of actress Joan Crawford: &#8220;Love is a fire. But whether it is going to warm your hearth or burn down your house, you can never tell.&#8221;</p>
<p>Feel the love, Mark.</p>
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