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		<title>Fox Slaps Back (Legally) at Redbox</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 23:03:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kara Swisher</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[In the ongoing fight between Redbox--which rents DVDs from kiosks for $1--and major Hollywood studios, 20th Century Fox Home Entertainment just filed a brief to dismiss Redbox's lawsuit against it.

The fascinating legal battle between Redbox and the studios centers around the issues of steep discounting, windowing and the price for premium content.]]></description>
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<p>In the ongoing fight between Redbox&#8211;which rents DVDs from kiosks for $1&#8211;and major Hollywood studios, 20th Century Fox Home Entertainment just filed a brief to dismiss Redbox&#8217;s lawsuit against it.</p>
<p>Said Fox in a statement:</p>
<p>&#8220;Redbox&#8217;s legal claims are fatally flawed. Fox&#8217;s filing today makes clear that, in the end, the case is all about Redbox&#8217;s refusal to make a business deal on general terms similar to those paid by others in this industry. Instead, Redbox has insisted that Fox sell DVDs to them through distributors, on the date they demand, at the price they want to pay. Unable to get the terms it wanted at the bargaining table, Redbox instead decided to file this meritless lawsuit.&#8221;</p>
<p>In a statement, Redbox president Mitch Lowe responded to the filing by stating that Fox was anti-consumer.</p>
<p>&#8220;Twentieth Century Fox continues its pursuit to prohibit consumer access to new release DVDs at affordable prices&#8230;Redbox remains steadfast in our commitment to protecting consumers&#8217; rights and to providing our customers the DVDs they want, where they want and at the low price they want.&#8221;</p>
<p>In two briefs filed this afternoon, refuting Redbox&#8217;s allegations, Fox is asserting that it has not refused to provide DVDs to the outfit and has tried to negotiate a deal. </p>
<p>Under contention between the two are the price and terms of when DVDs of hit movies can be released to Redbox.</p>
<p>Redbox has asserted that Fox is violating antitrust laws and copyright misuse in not selling DVDs to the company.</p>
<p>Fox denied that claim in the brief, noting that Redbox simply did not want to pay up in order to get certain DVDs on the &#8220;street date,&#8221; as do other retailers.</p>
<p>Fox is one of three studios that have become embroiled in lawsuits with Redbox.</p>
<p>Located in Oakbrook Terrace, Ill., and is wholly owned by Bellevue, Wash.-based Coinstar (CSTR), Redbox is seeing strong rental growth due to its $1-a-night price for first-run movies, which the company distributes via its 15,000 freestanding machines in supermarkets and convenience stores, as well as in big chains like McDonald&#8217;s (MCD), Wal-Mart (WMT) and Walgreens (WAG).</p>
<p>Its <a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/20090831/louie-swisher-hearts-redbox-but-hollywood-not-so-much">fascinating legal battle with the studios</a> centers around the issues of steep discounting, release windowing and the price for premium content.</p>
<p>Redbox recently sued Warner Home Video, owned by Time Warner (TWX), for denying it the opportunity to buy DVDs without being required to wait a month or more to rent them out.</p>
<p>It has previously gone after NBC Universal’s Universal Studios Home Entertainment, owned by GE (GE) and Fox, a unit of News Corp. (NWS), for similar release restrictions.</p>
<p>The trio&#8217;s movies make up 40 percent of the DVD rental market.</p>
<p>In its brief today, Fox noted that it was willing to sell to Redbox directly, rather than via wholesalers, but that talks collapsed over pricing issues. </p>
<p>And while some studios are holding fast to fighting price declines represented by consumer-friendly, idiot-proof tech solutions like Redbox, others are not.</p>
<p>Redbox has inked deals with Sony (SNE); Lions Gate (LGF); Paramount, a unit of Viacom (VIA); and also gets movies from Walt Disney (DIS).</p>
<p>Here are two briefs filed by Fox in U.S. District Court in Delaware, the first, a motion to dismiss the lawsuit by Redbox, and the second to transfer venue to California:</p>
<p><a title="View FINAL Opening Brief in Support of Fox's Motion to Dismiss on Scribd" href="http://www.scribd.com/doc/20503782/FINAL-Opening-Brief-in-Support-of-Foxs-Motion-to-Dismiss" style="margin: 12px auto 6px auto; font-family: Helvetica,Arial,Sans-serif; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 14px; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; -x-system-font: none; display: block; text-decoration: underline;">FINAL Opening Brief in Support of Fox&#8217;s Motion to Dismiss</a> <object codebase="http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=9,0,0,0" id="doc_688504934581107" name="doc_688504934581107" classid="clsid:d27cdb6e-ae6d-11cf-96b8-444553540000" align="middle"	height="500" width="100%" ><param name="movie"	value="http://d1.scribdassets.com/ScribdViewer.swf?document_id=20503782&#038;access_key=key-202ywy2l524esbxyt4yu&#038;page=1&#038;version=1&#038;viewMode="><param name="quality" value="high"><param name="play" value="true"><param name="loop" value="true"><param name="scale" value="showall"><param name="wmode" value="opaque"><param name="devicefont" value="false"><param name="bgcolor" value="#ffffff"><param name="menu" value="true"><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"><param name="allowScriptAccess" value="always"><param name="salign" value=""><embed src="http://d1.scribdassets.com/ScribdViewer.swf?document_id=20503782&#038;access_key=key-202ywy2l524esbxyt4yu&#038;page=1&#038;version=1&#038;viewMode=" quality="high" pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer" play="true" loop="true" scale="showall" wmode="opaque" devicefont="false" bgcolor="#ffffff" name="doc_688504934581107_object" menu="true" allowfullscreen="true" allowscriptaccess="always" salign="" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" align="middle"  height="500" width="100%"></embed></object>	</p>
<p><a title="View Redacted Transfer Venue Brief on Scribd" href="http://www.scribd.com/doc/20503802/Redacted-Transfer-Venue-Brief" style="margin: 12px auto 6px auto; font-family: Helvetica,Arial,Sans-serif; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 14px; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; -x-system-font: none; display: block; text-decoration: underline;">Redacted Transfer Venue Brief</a> <object codebase="http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=9,0,0,0" id="doc_595050826436085" name="doc_595050826436085" classid="clsid:d27cdb6e-ae6d-11cf-96b8-444553540000" align="middle"	height="500" width="100%" ><param name="movie"	value="http://d1.scribdassets.com/ScribdViewer.swf?document_id=20503802&#038;access_key=key-28l6e4kebdvz53uc96u3&#038;page=1&#038;version=1&#038;viewMode="><param name="quality" value="high"><param name="play" value="true"><param name="loop" value="true"><param name="scale" value="showall"><param name="wmode" value="opaque"><param name="devicefont" value="false"><param name="bgcolor" value="#ffffff"><param name="menu" value="true"><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"><param name="allowScriptAccess" value="always"><param name="salign" value=""><embed src="http://d1.scribdassets.com/ScribdViewer.swf?document_id=20503802&#038;access_key=key-28l6e4kebdvz53uc96u3&#038;page=1&#038;version=1&#038;viewMode=" quality="high" pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer" play="true" loop="true" scale="showall" wmode="opaque" devicefont="false" bgcolor="#ffffff" name="doc_595050826436085_object" menu="true" allowfullscreen="true" allowscriptaccess="always" salign="" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" align="middle"  height="500" width="100%"></embed></object>	</p>
<p>(Full disclosure: Fox is owned by News Corp., which also owns Dow Jones, owner of this site.)</p>
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		<title>Louie Swisher Hearts Redbox&#8211;But Hollywood Not So Much</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 22:10:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kara Swisher</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you want to get Hollywood movie studio types irked, mention Google. And if you want them steamed, bringing up Netflix will usually work.

But if you want to see the tops of their heads blow off, Redbox is just the ticket.

Except not to their movies, it seems, if the major movie studio execs have their way in an ever-growing legal battle with the DVD-rental kiosk company.

A typical consumer named Louie Swisher, though, begs to differ.]]></description>
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<p>If you want to get Hollywood movie studio types irked, mention Google (GOOG). And if you want them steamed, bringing up Netflix (NFLX) will usually work.</p>
<p>But if you want to see the tops of their heads blow off, <a href="http://www.redbox.com/">Redbox</a> is just the ticket.</p>
<p>Except not to their movies, it seems, if the major movie studio execs have their way in an ever-growing legal battle with the DVD-rental kiosk company.</p>
<p>Three of them have become embroiled in lawsuits with Redbox, even as the DVD market contracts.</p>
<p>Well, not for Redbox&#8211;which is located in Oakbrook Terrace, Ill., and is wholly owned by Bellevue, Wash.-based Coinstar (CSTR). </p>
<p>It is seeing strong rental growth due to its $1-a-night price for first-run movies, which the company distributes via its 15,000 freestanding machines in supermarkets and convenience stores, as well as in big chains like McDonald&#8217;s (MCD), Wal-Mart (WMT) and Walgreens (WAG).</p>
<p>Redbox is arguing that once it buys DVDs from the studios through wholesalers, it can charge any price it wants.</p>
<p>Studios beg to differ, claiming that bargain-basement pricing is hurting the market and that Redbox should not get the goods until after the first month of release of movies into the DVD market.</p>
<p>&#8220;These guys are simply grossly undervaluing our content,&#8221; said one studio source, in what is a typical sentiment. &#8220;We get the windowing model is changing, but we can&#8217;t just give these guys our stuff at a low, low price to essentially enable them to give it away&#8230;and that&#8217;s exactly what they wanted us to do.&#8221; </p>
<p>Thus, it&#8217;s a perfect set-up for legal high jinks about the issues of steep discounting, windowing and the price for premium content.</p>
<p>Redbox recently sued Warner Home Video, owned by Time Warner (TWX), for denying it the opportunity to buy DVDs without being required to wait a month or more to rent them out.</p>
<p>It has previously gone after NBC Universal&#8217;s Universal Studios Home Entertainment, owned by GE (GE) and 20th Century Fox, a unit of News Corp. (NWS), for similar release restrictions.</p>
<p>And while some studios are holding fast to fighting price declines represented by consumer-friendly, idiot-proof tech solutions like Redbox, others are not.</p>
<p>Redbox has inked deals with Sony (SNE), Lions Gate (LGF), Paramount, a unit of Viacom (VIA),  and also gets movies from Disney (DIS).</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a fascinating case to watch&#8211;yet another wrinkle in the what-is-content-really-worth question that has been plaguing all traditional media.</p>
<p>Unfortunately for those companies, the kids seem to love it, as you will see from this video I did while renting movies at our local Safeway (SWY) with my seven-year-old son, Louie, at a small competitor to Redbox with about 1,400 outlets called <a href="http://www.dvdplay.com/">DVDPlay</a>.</p>
<p>We use both, but Louie&#8211;like a lot of consumers&#8211;is most definitely a fan of the Redbox method.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the video:</p>
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<p><em>[Full disclosure: News Corp. owns Dow Jones, which owns this site.]</em></p>
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		<title>BillShrink's Pham Speaks About the T-Mobile Deal, the Econalypse and More!</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 13:00:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kara Swisher</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Last week, BoomTown paid an economically-minded visit to the Redwood City, Calif., offices of BillShrink, a Silicon Valley start-up aimed at helping consumers find cheaper prices on gas, cellphones and plans and credit cards via a Web-based comparison and alert system.

Launched about a year ago and armed with about $9 million in funding from Bessemer Venture Partners and Trinity Ventures, it has aims of moving into a range of other money-saving arenas too.

But today, it got a major boost in its existing business by inking a deal to be part of a huge national advertising campaign by T-Mobile aimed at boosting price awareness among consumers, an apt message for these econalyptic times.]]></description>
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<p>Last week, BoomTown paid an economically-minded visit to the Redwood City, Calif., offices of <a href="http://www.billshrink.com">BillShrink</a>, a Silicon Valley start-up aimed at helping consumers find cheaper prices on gas, cellphones and plans and credit cards via a Web-based comparison and alert system.</p>
<p>Launched about a year ago and armed with about $9 million in funding from Bessemer Venture Partners and Trinity Ventures, it has aims of moving into a range of other money-saving arenas too.</p>
<p>But today, it got a major boost in its existing business by inking a deal to be part of a huge national advertising campaign by T-Mobile aimed at boosting price awareness among consumers, an apt message for these econalyptic times.</p>
<p>The ads will start tonight in a big way on the finale of &#8220;American Idol&#8221; and will star Catherine Zeta-Jones, who asks consumers in high-profile television commercials if they want a &#8220;mobile makeover.&#8221; </p>
<p>Cue BillShrink, even if it does not end up recommending T-Mobile&#8217;s service.</p>
<p>It is the first time the mobile carrier has recommended a third-party Web site and one that is independent. T-Mobile must, given it is the No. 4 player and has to beat the bigger players with a curve ball.</p>
<p>While BillShrink does make money from referrals of vendors, BillShrink CEO Peter Pham said the service it delivers to consumers must remain unbiased to render the right comparison results to consumers.</p>
<p>I sat down and talked with Pham, a former Photobucket exec, about all this and also where BillShrink is headed next.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the video interview:</p>
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<p>And here is the T-Mobile commercial:</p>
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<p>Finally, here is the press release from T-Mobile about the campaign:</p>
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<blockquote class="memo"><p>T-Mobile Aims to Help Wireless Customers Save Money by Offering &#8216;Mobile Makeovers&#8217;</p>
<p>BELLEVUE, Wash., May 20, 2009 (BUSINESS WIRE)&#8211;T-Mobile USA, Inc. announced today a new campaign dedicated to helping people save money on their wireless service, and unveils a familiar face to inform customers that T-Mobile has &#8220;the coverage you need at the price you want.&#8221; </p>
<p>T-Mobile is prompting wireless customers to compare the value they are getting with their current wireless provider against other national carriers. People can visit T-Mobile retail stores or http://www.T-Mobile.com for a Mobile Makeover(SM), at no charge, by linking customers to BillShrink, an independent third-party service that provides people with free, unbiased and personalized savings recommendations for everyday bills such as wireless plans, credit cards and gasoline.</p>
<p>&#8220;Providing great wireless coverage at a great price is at the heart of what T-Mobile offers,&#8221; said Denny Marie Post, chief marketing officer, T-Mobile USA, Inc. &#8220;We&#8217;re so confident that T-Mobile provides the best overall experience for a majority of Americans, we&#8217;re willing to put our value to the test by pointing people to an independent source. And while we may not come out on top each and every time, we believe a majority of people will see T-Mobile offers them the value they want, and the best experience in wireless.&#8221;</p>
<p>According to BillShrink, as many as eight out of 10 people unknowingly overpay for their wireless service.* BillShrink analyzes a customer&#8217;s wireless usage, along with wireless coverage in a customer&#8217;s area and service price, to provide recommendations to help people find the best value options. &#8220;Wireless customers need quality cell phone coverage at the best available price so BillShrink helps people easily navigate through millions of wireless plan combinations to provide a personalized recommendation,&#8221; said Peter Pham, CEO, BillShrink. &#8220;BillShrink shows people how to save money on their everyday bills and still get the best level of service.&#8221;</p>
<p>To help drive home the message that millions of Americans could save money on their wireless service, a familiar face and voice, Catherine Zeta-Jones, is again featured in T-Mobile&#8217;s television advertising. In the ads, she prompts people to get a Mobile Makeover in order to help determine if they are currently paying too much for their wireless services, and where to find the best value, based on their individual needs.</p>
<p>&#8220;As an avid T-Mobile customer, I&#8217;m delighted once again to help T-Mobile carry its message to millions of Americans about the great value they deliver,&#8221; Zeta-Jones said. &#8220;The Mobile Makeover campaign is a smart way to show consumers that they could save some serious money.&#8221;</p>
<p>The first television spot featuring Ms. Zeta-Jones will air tonight during the American Idol season finale on FOX. It features a group of Ivy League economists trying to educate homeowners they&#8217;re paying too much for their cell phone service, only to have door after door slammed in their face. Finally, a homeowner is pleasantly surprised when he opens the door to see Zeta-Jones standing on his doorstep asking, &#8220;Do you have time for a Mobile Makeover?&#8221; Zeta-Jones will be featured in two additional Mobile Makeover television spots in the coming weeks.</p>
<p>Online advertising, local radio, out-of-home advertising, retail collateral, and online video opportunities also will carry T-Mobile value and Mobile Makeover messaging.</p>
<p>For more information about Mobile Makeover and T-Mobile&#8217;s products and services, please visit a T-Mobile retail store, or go to http://www.T-Mobile.com. More information about BillShrink can be found at http://www.BillShrink.com.</p>
<p>*8 of 10 claim based on January 2009 sample of consumers who used BillShrink.com to analyze their reported usage. BillShrink.com is not operated or controlled, and the information/results provided on this site are not verified, by T-Mobile. See T-Mobile.com for rate plan information.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>The Yahoo-AOL Jabberfest Continues Ad Infinitum (Plus Some Jerry Yang Chitter-Chatter on Video)</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 13:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kara Swisher</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Last week--in a clear sign that BoomTown has spent way too much face time in front of the idiot box--I compared the endless bickering back-and-forth between Yahoo CEO Jerry Yang and Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer to the annoying push-me-pull-you antics of Ross and Rachel on the television show, "Friends."

But the continuing discussions--oh, yes, there have been more this week--between Yahoo and AOL execs over the merger of their struggling online companies have their own TV comparison: The never-ending roundelay on "The View."

In other words: Blah, blah, blah. Chitter-chatter. Pointless arguing. Chin-scratching. More blah, blah. More chatter. Blah.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/files/2008/11/425theview081208.jpg"><img src="http://kara.allthingsd.com/files/2008/11/425theview081208-300x222.jpg" alt="" title="425theview081208" width="300" height="222" class="alignright size-medium wp-image-6372" /></a></p>
<p>Last week&#8211;in a clear sign that BoomTown has spent way too much face time in front of the idiot box&#8211;I compared the endless bickering back-and-forth between Yahoo CEO Jerry Yang and Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer to the annoying <a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/20081107/yang-and-ballmer-play-ross-and-rachel-and-it-is-just-as-annoying-as-the-tv-show/">push-me-pull-you antics of Ross and Rachel</a> on the television show, &#8220;Friends.&#8221;</p>
<p>But the continuing discussions between Yahoo and AOL execs over the merger of their struggling online companies have their own TV comparison&#8211;the never-ending roundelay on &#8220;The View.&#8221;</p>
<p>In other words: Blah, blah, blah. Chitter-chatter. Pointless arguing. Chin-scratching. More blah, blah. More chatter. Blah.</p>
<p>Thus, there were <em>still</em> more discussions going on at Yahoo HQ this past week about the possible deal, <a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/20081106/if-aol-is-amherst-and-yahoo-is-yale-why-arent-they-giving-the-merger-the-old-college-try/">in which Yahoo is code-named Yale and AOL Amherst</a>.</p>
<p>Along with Yahoo CEO Jerry Yang and President Sue Decker, the key Yahoo (YHOO) execs involved in pushing forward the effort, are U.S. head Hilary Schneider, and Greg Mrva, a former investment banker and analyst who is in charge of mergers and acquisitions at the company.</p>
<p>As I previously wrote, the <a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/20081028/the-deal-dance-aol-and-yahoo-and-even-google-and-microsoft-continue-to-waltz/">main suits involved in repping the Time Warner (TWX) unit </a> are AOL President Ron Grant and Time Warner M&#038;A SVP Jim Burtson.</p>
<p>&#8220;More of the same discussions about how it would all integrate,&#8221; said one source close to the situation at Yahoo. &#8220;Same as always.&#8221;</p>
<p>Added an AOL source, in what I consider the understatement of the year: &#8220;There has not been a lot of clarity in decision-making at Yahoo.&#8221;</p>
<p>Big surprise: <em>Still</em> no deal!</p>
<p>That&#8217;s unusual to me, since all the true obstacles&#8211;namely, the collapse of the controversial search advertising deal Yahoo tried to strike with Google (GOOG), AOL and Yahoo&#8217;s results coming in as weak as expected and, lastly, a definite lack of interest from Microsoft (MSFT) to rebid for Yahoo&#8211;are no longer in the way.</p>
<p>And, of course, Yahoo&#8217;s share price&#8211;the stock has settled into the depressing $11 to $12 range that gives the company a $15.7 billion valuation&#8211;is simply not going up any time soon. </p>
<p>So, if the deal is to be done, the price&#8211;or percentage, really&#8211;will probably have to be based on today&#8217;s reality, which is a very bleak outlook in the graphical online advertising business in which Yahoo plays most strongly.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why dithering is a problem for this possible marriage, despite all the obvious complexity.</p>
<p>For one, it takes all the air out of any momentum such a combination could produce for either Yahoo or AOL, which will be much needed in the current economic environment.</p>
<p>In fact, such an econalypse is actually the perfect cover to try to pull this turnaround&#8211;and it is exactly that&#8211;off, given few investors or media will expect much from the merger for a while and be more forgiving.</p>
<p>In addition, the slash-and-burn integration needed to drastically refocus the new company&#8211;hopefully on three things only: advertising, content and communications&#8211;will be easier now more than later when the financial outlook improves.</p>
<p>&#8220;Things are going to get a lot worse than people think,&#8221; said one AOL exec. &#8220;So, this is a really good time for a reset and for cleaning things up.&#8221;</p>
<p>It is also easier now to bring in fresh ideas and new leadership to a combined Yahoo/AOL, as a new company will surely give many talented outside execs who have avoided both separately a reason to look again. </p>
<p>I could go on as to why this deal should move forward quickly, but here is one piece of great advice I got several years ago, from a well-known Internet entrepreneur whose company had just taken a big gamble by buying a controversial but fast-growing start-up in a key category.</p>
<p>At the time, many decried the move as too risky and too pricey and too thoughtlessly done. When I asked the exec about this, he did not argue, but offered this:</p>
<p>&#8220;No one really knows how anything is going to turn out, no matter how long they think it through,&#8221; he said. &#8220;But, I believe it will all work out if we execute well on the promise, because I did know one thing for sure: It was the right direction.&#8221;</p>
<p>And, indeed, while you can puzzle over a map endlessly, knowing the right direction to go in is the only thing one can be sure of in almost any circumstance in life. </p>
<p>Therefore, all Yahoo and AOL have to do is pick a path&#8211;whether it be to move on or merge&#8211;and just <em>go</em>.</p>
<p>By <em>tomorrow</em> would work for me.</p>
<p>In the meantime, below is a video I did of Yahoo&#8217;s Yang onstage at the Web 2.0 Summit in San Francisco last week, talking about the travails of the last year.</p>
<p>It includes him saying Microsoft should still buy Yahoo, which felt a little too much like a plea to me. (I happened to be sitting next to some Microsoft execs during the speech and they did not look too moved by the begging.)</p>
<p>But judge for yourself&#8211;here&#8217;s the video (yes, the Web 2.0 Summit organizers did flash a picture of a jar of Jif peanut butter as a joke&#8211;ha, ha, referring to the <a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/20080627/a-garlinghouse-memorial-boomtown-decodes-the-infamous-peanut-butter-manifesto/">infamous Yahoo &#8220;Peanut Butter Manifesto&#8221;</a>):</p>
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		<title>Yahoo Shares Drop on AOL Non-Deal: Here's Why and What That Means</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 13:53:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kara Swisher</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Today, BoomTown will be spending the whole day--complete with lunch!--at Yahoo's Sunnyvale, Calif., HQ to visit various and sundry execs in charge of a wide range of products.

Why? Well, as interested as I am in all of Yahoo's always messy corporate and stock machinations, it's just as important to get a handle on exactly what actual products and services the company is working on to get out of its quandary.

Because, while Yahoo is still talking about merging with AOL, it needs to have other options.]]></description>
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<p>Today, BoomTown will be spending the whole day&#8211;complete with lunch!&#8211;at Yahoo&#8217;s Sunnyvale, Calif., HQ to visit various and sundry execs in charge of a wide range of products.</p>
<p>Why? Well, as interested as I am in all of Yahoo&#8217;s always messy corporate and stock machinations, it&#8217;s just as important to get a handle on exactly what actual products and services the company is working on to get out of its quandary. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s important because Yahoo&#8217;s prospects have gotten so bogged down of late that even the possibility of an overpriced deal to buy Time Warner (TWX) online unit AOL, including its access business, whacked its stock yesterday.</p>
<p>Yahoo (YHOO) shares dropped to $12.65 yesterday, down 84 cent or 6.2 percent, partly due to the weaker market, but also because of the rumor that Yahoo was possibly going to pay too much for AOL.</p>
<p>That too much would be $8 to $10 billion.</p>
<p>The report by Silicon Alley Insider&#8217;s Henry Blodget, which included an odd Yahoo-labeled 18-wheeler semi-truck sighted near AOL, turned out to be not so solid and <a href="http://www.alleyinsider.com/2008/10/aol-yahoo-merger-a-done-deal-says-source">was later refuted by Blodget</a> himself.</p>
<p>Nonetheless, it was a point well taken from the bad reaction that few think a merger is a good idea at anything other than low, low prices.</p>
<p>Why? Well, for one, the uncertain immediate future for the graphical ad business&#8211;big earners at AOL and Yahoo&#8211;going forward.</p>
<p>Other key issues: AOL&#8217;s growing weakness. Its revenue (half of which comes from the ISP business, by the way) and also its operating income are down.</p>
<p>Even the less stellar performance of Yahoo of late looks good in comparison.</p>
<p>Of course, the pair are still talking in that lugubrious way, as <a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/20081008/what-the-combined-yahoo-aol-might-look-like-as-talks-drag-on-oops-heat-up/">has been reported previously here</a>.</p>
<p>And, if forced to bet, I would suspect there will be a deal done eventually.</p>
<p>But, as they say, god&#8211;or the devil, as the case may be&#8211;is in the details.</p>
<p>Until then, as I hope to see today at Yahoo, both it and AOL have got to get busy making their standalone businesses shine a lot better than they do now. </p>
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		<title>Yahoo Drops to $15.58 a Share (But Microsoft Still Uninterested)</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 20:13:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kara Swisher</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[To be fair, the whole market was dragged down today due to worries about a deepening recession. But Yahoo's ever-decreasing share price has got to have the company and its investors mighty worried. 

Hitting lows not seen since the dot-com doldrums of 2001 and 2002, Yahoo closed at $15.58, down $1.38 or 8.14 percent, giving the troubled Internet giant a market cap of just $22.08 billion.]]></description>
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<p>To be fair, the whole market was dragged down today due to worries about a deepening recession. But Yahoo&#8217;s ever-decreasing share price has got to have the company and its investors mighty worried. </p>
<p>Hitting lows not seen since the dot-com doldrums of 2001 and 2002, Yahoo closed at $15.58&#8211;down $1.38 or 8.14 percent&#8211;giving the troubled Internet giant a market cap of just $22.08 billion.</p>
<p>That is almost exactly half of what Yahoo leadership could have gotten if the company had accepted a takeover offer made by Microsoft at the beginning of February.</p>
<p>Nonetheless, even at these bargain-basement prices, sources at the software giant said that Microsoft (MSFT) CEO Steve Ballmer has declared repeatedly at internal gatherings recently that he is not going to make another offer for Yahoo (YHOO) no matter how low it goes.</p>
<p>This seems a little stubborn to BoomTown&#8211;a kind of taking-my-marbles-and-going-home attitude&#8211;especially given Yahoo still has one of the most highly trafficked sites on the Web and some of its best-known products and services, as well as being the No. 2 player in search.</p>
<p>And Ballmer might well be bluffing, of course. After all, a bargain is a bargain.</p>
<p>Nonetheless, it underscores the reality that Yahoo is probably truly on its own now and must sink or swim on the initiatives and leadership of CEO Jerry Yang and President Sue Decker.</p>
<p>As I have written repeatedly, the pair has increasingly less time to act and must show perceptible improvements in results.</p>
<p>As at most Web companies, most analysts agree the third quarter is probably not a disaster for Yahoo. Instead, all eyes are on the fourth quarter, which is going to be most definitely impacted by the current economic slowdown.</p>
<p>Yahoo has <a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/20080909/yahoo-brings-in-drum-roll-please-a-former-microsoft-exec-to-head-ad-sales/">recently hired a former Microsoft exec&#8211;Joanne Bradford</a>&#8211;to lead its advertising efforts in the key U.S. market. And, while she is well regarded on Madison Avenue, Bradford has her work cut out of her, especially in the hard-hit online display advertising business. </p>
<p>Yahoo also is on pins and needles to see if the <a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/20080924/the-dont-worry-jack-yahoogle-argument-boomtown-is-still-not-reassured/">Justice Department will try to put the kibosh</a> on its search ad outsourcing deal with Google (GOOG).</p>
<p>Yahoo is hoping to get a big boost in revenue from the partnership, which has many critics. In the current economic environment, the government might be loath to slap down any sign of financial activity, but the uncertainty is not good for Yahoo.</p>
<p>Yahoo&#8217;s declining stock price is also sure to impact its talks with Time Warner (TWX) over acquiring its AOL unit. Yahoo does not want to pay anywhere near the $10 billion that the media giant had previously floated as its price for the once-mighty, now-beleaguered AOL.</p>
<p>But Yahoo&#8217;s declining market value means it is likely to be able to pony up less and less.</p>
<p>With continuing rumors of layoffs, which <a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/20080916/layoffs-hit-silicon-valley-h-p-today-who-tomorrow/">I posted about two weeks ago</a>, doing more with less is going to be business as usual at Yahoo, it seems.</p>
<p>And, in fact, heads of various business units at Yahoo have been given marching orders to cut costs, which are quite substantial.</p>
<p>&#8220;We might not make all the cuts requested,&#8221; said one exec. &#8220;But it <em>is</em> going to hurt.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>MicroHoo: Talk, Talk Talk (Which BoomTown Told You on Tuesday)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kara Swisher</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[As BoomTown reported on Tuesday, The Wall Street Journal is now reporting that Microsoft  and Yahoo have been chatting away informally, after a week of faux-wrestling.

It's been like WrestleMania, except without the excitement and anticipation. Also, no cool names or outfits.]]></description>
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<p>As BoomTown reported on Tuesday, <a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120975411935763303.html?mod=hps_us_whats_news">The Wall Street Journal is now reporting that Microsoft (MSFT) and Yahoo (YHOO) have been chatting away informally</a>, after a week of faux-wrestling.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s been like WrestleMania, except without the excitement and <a href="http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/20080502/ddv20080502/">anticipation</a>. Also, no cool names or outfits.</p>
<p>As<a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/20080429/microhoo-how-to-talk-without-moving-your-lips/"> I posted on Tuesday</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>While it is true, as we and everyone else have posted, that Yahoo and Microsoft still have not entered into or even scheduled any formal talks, even after the software giant&#8217;s threat to launch a hostile bid came and went over the weekend without action, it is also not true that there are no talks going on.</p>
<p>According to sources close to both companies, there are informal discussions now taking place between Yahoo and Microsoft&#8211;via bankers, board members, shareholders and others close to both companies&#8211;to try to prevent a hostile takeover scenario or the sudden withdrawal of Microsoft&#8217;s offer.</p>
<p>Both options are unattractive for a number of reasons to pretty much everyone and, in BoomTown’s opinion, an excellent example of how juvenile this takeover battle has become (or &#8220;amateur hour,&#8221; as one source close to both companies described it to me).</p>
<p>A hostile bid by Microsoft, for example, is profoundly distracting to both parties and could result in an exodus of Yahoo staff, along with being risky in terms of certain success for Microsoft.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>And from the Journal this afternoon:</p>
<blockquote><p>The two sides and their advisers have had informal discussions over the past week, but have been stymied by a divide on the price Microsoft should pay to acquire Yahoo, say the people. Microsoft has been weighing whether to drop its bid or go hostile, and has promised to announce its decision this week. As of Thursday night, Microsoft was leaning toward going hostile, but the situation remained fluid, according to people familiar with the matter.</p>
<p>Now, people close to the two sides are attempting to avert that prospect with discussions they hope could lead to a negotiated outcome, say the people. Microsoft has wanted to avoid a hostile takeover battle, which could drag out and result in distraction and the loss of key Yahoo employees.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
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